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The war in iraq
« on: January 24, 2008, 08:47:35 pm »
Post what u think of the war in iraq. Example: The us army is pulling out too soon our too late. what you think should be done, and why. (i'm kind of bored so i want to see some people think of this.) i think that that the us Should of been out long ago.
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Kunoichi

Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 09:19:47 pm »
'~pFe~Iliera: i don't care'

I agree with that. If it doesn't have anything to do with me, I'm neutral with this war.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 09:44:04 pm »
And Iraq is spelled with big capital as well as US Army.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008, 10:16:12 pm »
try to edit your opening posts to give it a bit more direction maybe. giving your own opinion could help as well to start a good discussion
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 10:23:27 pm »
Well we should care. We dont know what can happend. But a bertter question. Will Iran Nuclearbomb Israel?
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008, 10:26:53 pm »
Post what u think of the war in iraq. Example: The us army pulled out too soon our too late. what you think should be done, and why. (i'm kind of bored so i want to see some people think of this.)

The US have pulled out :o must of happened in the last hour or so then. Well i dont have much opinion about it. I do find it funny though how the British government say "ooo yes looked we've pulled more troopes out of Iraq" look around people they've just sent them into Afghanistan instead. Who would of ever guessed. I think its taken to long for the US to sort things out in Iraq and things have just gotten to far out of hand. I've had friends been killed there who where just 19 years old for in my opinion a pointless 'war'. You can not really call it a war though, can you as it was technically over ...what 2 years ago, well thats what they declared i believe.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 11:03:22 pm »
War, riiiiight...

The US overstepped their boundaries already by launching the invasion of Iraq. For what? Iraq's nuclear weapons, which happened to be manufactured in trucks! Black gold does indeed have a major impact on politics. And we're still supposed to believe that the Arabians are terrorists and generally the villains in the world.
It's kinda Ironic, as today's newspaper included an article that announced the number of lies concerning the Iraq war before the invasion was launched. George W. Bush ended up at  230 lies in official statements.

As far as I'm concerned the US haven't pulled out their troops, and don't plan on doing it in the near future. Dunno if something happened just some hours ago. I'll check back when I get my hands on tomorrows newspaper.

Well we should care. We dont know what can happend. But a bertter question. Will Iran Nuclearbomb Israel?
It's not a better question. It's politically impossible for Iran to nuke Israel.
Oh, what exactly CAN happen?

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I've had friends been killed there who where just 19 years old for in my opinion a pointless 'war'.
They knew what they signed up for, took the oath and were left in a position to do nothing but obey orders. How come people abandoning their lines when people they know are sent back in black body bags (judging from the 2004 USA president election)?
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2008, 11:54:56 pm »
i agree Valk pointless war.. waste of american troops.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 03:35:49 pm »
i agree Valk pointless war.. waste of american troops.
and innocent people
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 03:47:35 pm »
Well why the hell america have to put their soldiers everywhere?
Why can't Iraq just take care of themself. They will ask help if needed. :/

It's just more destroy in there when there is US Armys in there.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 03:50:57 pm »
Well why the hell america have to put their soldiers everywhere?
Why can't Iraq just take care of themself. They will ask help if needed. :/

It's just more destroy in there when there is US Armys in there.
And I highly doubt that America or Europe asked for terrorist attacks. USA were in the past already crowned as a peace maker and money lowner (WWI, WWII). Economy makes the world turn around.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2008, 01:46:06 pm »
Well why the hell america have to put their soldiers everywhere?
Why can't Iraq just take care of themself. They will ask help if needed. :/

It's just more destroy in there when there is US Armys in there.
And I highly doubt that America or Europe asked for terrorist attacks. USA were in the past already crowned as a peace maker and money lowner (WWI, WWII). Economy makes the world turn around.

Very true indeed, since the Iraq war and being in Afganistan there havent been any terrorist attacks in America, i cant really say the same for Britian but it has quietened down a bit.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2008, 09:34:38 pm »
Well why the hell america have to put their soldiers everywhere?
Why can't Iraq just take care of themself. They will ask help if needed. :/

It's just more destroy in there when there is US Armys in there.
And I highly doubt that America or Europe asked for terrorist attacks. USA were in the past already crowned as a peace maker and money lowner (WWI, WWII). Economy makes the world turn around.

Very true indeed, since the Iraq war and being in Afganistan there havent been any terrorist attacks in America, i cant really say the same for Britian but it has quietened down a bit.



The people in Iraq weren't that free when Saddam was the ruler. He used physical force to clear of anyone that stood against him.  USA (George W. Bush) thought that since USA is the world's leading superpower they had a duty to play world police and ''help'' the people in Iraq from Saddam. Bush thought that would be an easy task but US military (and other military forces) killed many civilians that hadn't done anything wrong at all when they overtook the capitol in Iraq (Bagdad). The financial picture is also a key in this war. But that I don't know to much about.

After Bush declared in a LIVE broadcast on national TV that the war was over, there have been more killed than before his speech.

So now over to my personal view: I think that if George W Bush hadn't been president the todays situation would have been different. Bush is not intelligent enough to be president as he has proven a bunch of times in debates on TV and other official events.
The hanging of Saddam was as most of us know filmed with a cameraphone and posted on the web. That ticked of many people that liked Saddam and made them rebel against UN-military stations in Iraq along with other places.
Here in Norway we had a soldier that was/still is a sniper for the Norwegian military on TV-documentary about the war in Iraq. When he was trying to explain how the rebels (who were civilian) put big cans of oil and gas in front of the gate to the army base he started crying. Small kids around 10-16 years along with adults were throwing rocks and firebombs to try to blow up the gate. The situation ended with civilians getting killed because of Saddam's capture and execution.

Is really Bush the right person to rule the world greatest superpower?
With enough bombs to blow up the earth 10 times USA (Bush) should be more careful playing ''World Police''.

I'll end this with the words of Albert Einstein: I don't know how World War 3 will be fought, but I do know that the 4th will be with sticks and stones
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2008, 09:54:28 pm »
This whole war and terrorist thing is an ingenious plan. Not only an excuse for American economy to "thrive" (yea they are in debt but that's not what i'm talking about) but it also instills fear into the hearts of all those that consider themselves innocent. Nationalism, Patriotism, Imperialism not only to boost the economy but to strengthen the workforce in the army and the army itself? Bush is a genius but it's cool to think otherwise.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2008, 11:58:53 pm »
After ww1 the encomeny was great till the Great depression then they started ww2 and encomeny was fine and now that america is kinda comming out of iraq the encomeny is getting low they gunna start a war to bring it up?
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2008, 10:21:49 am »
After ww1 the encomeny was great till the Great depression then they started ww2 and encomeny was fine and now that america is kinda comming out of iraq the encomeny is getting low they gunna start a war to bring it up?
aka. They blow up Russia,  China and Europe, especially China?

Pay attention during your history lessons, heck playing through Call of Duty 2 would probably increase your knowledge of WW2 hundredfold.
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Re: The war in iraq
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2008, 02:53:55 pm »
I think people miss the point about Bush. Bush is in the oval office for one reason: Charisma. Wether he is an idiot or not, is irrellevant, since he has more than enough people around himself with intelligence,  competence, and most importantly agendas. Thus if Bush is infact an idiot, he got more than enough people around him telling him what to do for it to really matter.

Also about the second term thing. EVERY president in the USA that has been at war when there has been an election, has been reelected. No exceptions. The Iraq war had nothing to do with what Saddam was doing to his people. The US has had no problems with genocides around the world earlier when it hasn't affected their interests directly. However, when someone they helped being brought into office doesn't act the way they prefer him to do to keep the US interests, it's a no-brainer that they wanna bring that guy down. Plus when he has large reseres of oil waiting to be captured, the choice gets even easier to make.
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Re: The war in iraq
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2008, 06:14:42 pm »
is it true that both Osama and Saddam were once part of the CIA? That were left behind after preliminary US-invasions? That got corrupt and abused their powers?
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2008, 04:35:48 pm »
I think that Osama was trained by the CIA at least in the 80's when Afghanistan was at some sort of war with the sovjet. And the US couldn't have Sovjet winning a war, so they trained people who were willing to fight for Afghanistan so the Sovjet wouldn't win, though the US didn't dare to enter the war directly if I remember correctly due to the fear of a nuclear retaliation from the Sovjet if they did. When Sovjet pulled out of Afghanistan, the US said bye bye as well, and the country were left in ruins and became subject to civil wars since there really was no central government with real power and an election system was unheard of.

As for Saddam, I am unsure if the CIA trained him. Can't say I heard too much about that, though I believe the CIA helped him gain power in Iraq due to them believeing it was in their own interest to put Saddam in power. I don't know wether it was the CIA who left, or if it was Saddam who chased them away, but I'm lenient to believe the latter occoured. Saddam drove a very clear line from day one. To really make his point, on the day he gained power (through some weird kind of coup if I remember correctly), he asked the parliament if anyone would object to him being in power. Some people raised their hands, they were escorted out by a few of Saddams men, and then a few minutes after you heard several gunshots and the men came back in withouth the people who had objected. And Saddam then proceeded to ask if anyone else wanted to object. Noone raised their hands. This is all in a tape recording by the way.
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