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Author Topic: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?  (Read 8292 times)

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Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« on: November 21, 2007, 11:40:07 am »
More and more people are playing violent computergames nowadays.

There are some organisations which claims that people are getting more violent buy playing these violent games.
Is there any truth in their so called "research"?

Are you getting more violent and/or aggressive after playing LieroX, or any other game that revolves around violence.
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2007, 12:10:27 pm »
I think it only affects you if you are too young or too dumb of if you are violent already.
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Pera

Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2007, 12:17:45 pm »
I've been couple times very mad after playing lx. Couple years ago I clutched a glass and had few cuts in my hand after that  ;D ;D (lost a cw which got me mad).

Games / movies may feed mentally sick people and affect that way.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2007, 12:23:19 pm by Pera »
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 01:47:07 pm »
Hmm no. Playing violent games is a fit way for a mentally healthy person to decrease aggression and frustration, as long as the game itself isn't so frustrating that could make a stressed out, impatient kid get even more frustrated and angry towards a gaming console.

In my long history of playing consoles I have always stopped playing if I have been frustrated so much that I've pressed my teeth together and screamed red-faced and swore the game/console to the lowest depths of hell. I am very patient though when it comes to good games, and if there was a level that I had to play 20 times or so to complete it, goddamn, it was worth it.

Still, no reason to throw a tantrum because of some silly little game.

Edit: Playing rifles gets me frustrated.
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Gaston

Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007, 04:00:27 pm »
Shady area. Science shows it's most obvious flaws in this area. Most sceince reports that concludes one way or another (either they are dangerous or they are not) are filled with political agendas and biased opinions, and yet those reports are allowed to pass as "scientific".

The truth is, we have absolutely no clue what happends in the brain scientifically. We can spot patterns and see waht areas in he brain is active, and what cell and other enzyms are being produced and what consequenses may seem to be of that through behaviour in the indiviudal. However there is nothing anywhere near an exact science on what consequenses are triggered from what happends in the brain. It's all calculated guesses, and how much of that socalled "calculated guesswork" passes as science, is beyond me, but that's aside from the debate.

My personal opinion is that games may hurt one child in a million in a way that something terrible may happen. It is also my opinion that it can be the trigger in similairy numbered cases. Do I think the videogame is directly responsible for such actions being taken through though? no. I blame irresponsible parents, the individuals themself in question, and society around them. The games are IMO a minor factor that may somethimes be the famous last drop, and the whole equuation was more or less the bigger reason such things happen.

So basically, my opinion can be summed as such: Videogames are potantially, but very rarely as responsible to turn children into murder machines as a small rock is responsible for creating a landslide. It may be the final factor pushing things over the edge, but it was only a small part of the whole picture.
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2007, 04:39:33 pm »
I think getting frustrated and violent after playing a game, with yourself, is the same as losing your temper and throwing your tennis racket at the wall when you lose a point. Entirely different to the suggestion video games makes you take things out on other people, regardless of how you do in the game.

These people who go around saying ''those games like Hitman turn kids into murderers because they think killing people is cool!''

It's crap. They say ''ooohoo young people violent!''. Young people have always been violent, human nature for males to be competetive - we're mammals afterall. Girls not so, guess what - girls don't play computer games anywhere near as much as boys. When kids in america go on shooting rampages they say ''he played violent video games!'' - what happened to people just being plain crazy?

As Gaston said, I think very very very rarely will videogames ever cause someone to do something wrong that they would not have done without the game. There are few people unstable enough to let that happen.

Games like LX certainly aren't violent in a human sense. There's a large difference between a game that sees you creeping up on something made to look very real and human, murdering that 'person' and watching that 'person' die through the game, and firing pixellated, creatively named projectiles at 'worms' in a 2d environment.

A mad kid might see a situation in real life and think ''this is exactly how it was in Manhunt.. i could smash his head open with the *heavy object*..'' but a mad kid wouldn't ever see a situation in real life thinking ''this is just like LX! I could ninja rope to the roof and shoot down with my shotgun, then napalm him!''.
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2007, 04:43:36 pm »
I can get really frustrated if i loose repeatedly/ or when my teammates sucks b4ll$ (Like in quakewars pubbies ;() but it could happen in the sims to if it wouldn't have been for those saves........
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2007, 09:16:46 pm »
I didn't really read this whole topic, just the first post. But I'll write what I know or what my Communications professor told us. Playing violent games or watching violent televisions doesn't necessarily cause you to act violent/fight with other people, it just causes you to let violence happen around you. So if you see fighting you will more likely just watch it and be amused instead of trying to break it apart.

Krayonaise

Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2007, 09:57:00 pm »
Playing video games lets me vent my anger. People telling me to stop playing video games pisses me off.

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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2007, 10:28:09 pm »
New keyboard after mortars, please?

I usually quit when it gets so freaking annoying to play. Example: A ****ing noob sniper in ETQW camps at the rocks, it pisses me off. Taking the artillery guy and BOOM rocket artillery into one guy. That makes me happy tho :). <---- First EMO

Blah, most of the time I try to spoil the spoiler's fun in games.
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Gaston

Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2007, 11:01:34 pm »
I didn't really read this whole topic, just the first post. But I'll write what I know or what my Communications professor told us. Playing violent games or watching violent televisions doesn't necessarily cause you to act violent/fight with other people, it just causes you to let violence happen around you. So if you see fighting you will more likely just watch it and be amused instead of trying to break it apart.

Personally I found this statement to be almost ludicrous. May I ask for the name of the professor, so I can review any potential articles he has written to gain a better insight into what exactly he is talking about?
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2007, 11:22:20 pm »
There are also some organisations that claim people get less violent by playing video games.
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2007, 08:58:01 am »
I didn't really read this whole topic, just the first post. But I'll write what I know or what my Communications professor told us. Playing violent games or watching violent televisions doesn't necessarily cause you to act violent/fight with other people, it just causes you to let violence happen around you. So if you see fighting you will more likely just watch it and be amused instead of trying to break it apart.
We could use Jan Gillou's selfbiografy "Ondskan" (Evil) as an example.
Erik Ponti fights another guy, surrounded by a cheering crowd of "normal" pupils.

Wait, this is set in the 60s!
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2007, 08:50:31 pm »
We could use Jan Gillou's selfbiografy "Ondskan" (Evil) as an example.
Erik Ponti fights another guy, surrounded by a cheering crowd of "normal" pupils.

Wait, this is set in the 60s!

Excuse me? :S

Gaston, Ill reply to your post later.

Vastilary

Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2007, 05:38:53 am »
Playing games lets me relax, it doesn't make me want to kill people. If I am mad, I'll play a few relaxing games of LX to take my mind off it, and to relieve stress. Though mostly I just play it because it's fun. Playing more violent games doesn't to much, for example I'm a Prince of Persia fan, doesn't make me want to harm people either. Just because I creep up on someone and stab them in the head with a knife in a game, I don't have the sudden urge to kill my family.


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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2008, 12:07:26 am »
Not much of an arguement on a videogame site =P

No, they rarely cause aggression. People will point fingers at video games, but numbers say violence is at a low in the last 20 years.
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2008, 01:36:00 am »
World war 3 -
  Every soldier will be pumped up on video games(GTA) before they go to battle... to maximize the kill ratio :D
I don't think they make people violent, they rather calm me down.. it always feels good to give some evil Monster a hard beating when i am angry  ;D 8)
 
(oof didn't notice this was Gravedigging.., i think)
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2008, 02:45:44 am »
World war 3 -
  Every soldier will be pumped up on video games(GTA) before they go to battle... to maximize the kill ratio :D
I don't think they make people violent, they rather calm me down.. it always feels good to give some evil Monster a hard beating when i am angry  ;D 8)
 
(oof didn't notice this was Gravedigging.., i think)

Kill ratio?

I suggest you stop with video games right now. In real life, you don't get a kill to death 'ratio' score. You die, you don't respawn, you don't watch the rest of the fight in spectator mode, you don't live once you're dead. You die, you're dead, end of.

Think before you post mindless jibberish, people are dying every day, you think they 'respawn' tomorrow? There are wars going on, right now, and there are some people on this forum with friends and/or relatives out there, 'fighting'. Think before you write, at least in the CoE forum.
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2008, 03:12:54 am »
Make sure that you read the Cavern of Enlightenment rules before posting in the CoE.
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Re: Computer/TV-Gaming ---> (aggressions) ---> Homocide?
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2008, 07:22:21 am »
I'm aware of the rules Haze, and I know my post was agressive, however I think it is justified. Such a thoughtless comment needs to be 'attacked'. I have two relatives and one friend currently in Iraq. It frustrates me to see someone write such a flippant remark.
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