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RuNyoufool

Karma system going down
« on: April 13, 2007, 10:56:28 am »
After evaluating the karma system, and how it has not proven to work well for LXA, we are planning to take it down. It isn't flexible enough to solve the friend/foe applaud/smite patterns that are going on at LXA. Only way to improve matters would be to moderate all the karma changes and decide whether they have some validity, but that would be very subjective, since mods would have to decide this.
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Gaston

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2007, 11:06:14 am »
*Applauds Run for his decision*

On a serious note, the only purpose the karma system seemed to serve was people smiting their enemies and applauding their friends each week. Hardly anything that reflects the point of the system...
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[leke]GrassNinja

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2007, 11:07:35 am »
Yes, but doesn't the amount of friends and enemies biuld your reputation? :P
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Gaston

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2007, 11:11:46 am »
Yes, but doesn't the amount of friends and enemies biuld your reputation? :P
That may be, but that's not the purpose of the karma system. The point of it is to applaud users for making good posts, and smite them for making bad posts, not just smite and applaud them at random for either "being my friend" or for "being a moron". If that were the case, everyone should just have one vote per user ever for it to be a reputation meter...
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Oxygen

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2007, 11:16:01 am »
So? The karma system is'nt hurting anybody? Let it stay, it's not a main part that effects us. It's doing nothing wrong it's just not doing what you want it to do.
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Shade

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2007, 11:30:17 am »
Yeh you can't take it away from us... Noooo PLS DONT!!!
« Last Edit: April 13, 2007, 11:37:06 am by ShadowNinja »
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Z01

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2007, 11:37:07 am »
I dont give a shit really.
After all karma doesnt show anything anyway.
Screams is cool but has -1000 so....

I wont miss it :)
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Swift

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2007, 11:37:48 am »
So? The karma system is'nt hurting anybody? Let it stay, it's not a main part that effects us. It's doing nothing wrong it's just not doing what you want it to do.

Indeed its not doing what its meant for.
Lets take a look at leke and finno. They are smiting each other as much as they can, and aplaud their clan members as much as they can.

So nowdays its more like a stupid little game. And we dont think that a stupid little game should apear in someone's profile.
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Oxygen

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2007, 11:39:44 am »
So? The karma system is'nt hurting anybody? Let it stay, it's not a main part that effects us. It's doing nothing wrong it's just not doing what you want it to do.

Indeed its not doing what its meant for.
Lets take a look at leke and finno. They are smiting each other as much as they can, and aplaud their clan members as much as they can.

So nowdays its more like a stupid little game. And we dont think that a stupid little game should apear in someone's profile.

I applauded gigus the other day. Technically it's making more clan rilvary and thats nothing bad so long as it does'nt get out of hand.

And...I LOVE STUPID LITTLE GAMES!
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Shade

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2007, 12:01:38 pm »
brat that would just leave a heap of useless comments...
Maybe we should just make the whole system useless exept only mods may use it...
Wipe what is there at the moment
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RuNyoufool

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2007, 12:28:02 pm »
If they skip the commentary field I will definately think less about this forum.

Commentary field (and karma points) was the best way to let users know what they thought of the other users post without having to spam in the topic itself. If the commentfield goes, Im sure it will leave some users forced to post their "remarks" in the actual topic instead. Is that what you want?

very good point. I just found that the new karma mod has a notification option, so comments could be pm-ed to users directly.

Makes me think though, there's not much difference with quoting the reply and sending a pm with a comment, is there? Besides that karma comments are public atm, which might change as well.
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SteelSide

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2007, 01:13:53 pm »
RuNYouFool:

- Skip the plus/minus
- Keep the commentaryfield

This way people can write small comment on good/bad post, karma wont be counted in + or -, rather in how many comments your different posts have gotten (bad as good).

the end.
Brat for president!

I think it is just silly looking at someones karma and seeing he got 10 "+" from a friend the past week, and 10 "-" from an enemy. It is just ridiculous.
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Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2007, 01:41:13 pm »
If they skip the commentary field I will definately think less about this forum.

Commentary field (and karma points) was the best way to let users know what they thought of the other users post without having to spam in the topic itself. If the commentfield goes, Im sure it will leave some users forced to post their "remarks" in the actual topic instead. Is that what you want?

I totally agree with bart here.
and about giving karmas, some player get + just for fun from others, (like Spectro, Faisal)
Some get karmas only for serious things, I mean good posts here.

and some get minus Karma with the same reason, ( one example: Crusader gave a - to Adam,( just because he had put up a few pictures about himself) saying Yeah you made my day..... now I think thats really wierd.

So all in one, eventough I dont care wteher it stays or not, I still like to read the comments from time to time, mainly when they are given with a normal point.
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[leke]LemonNinja

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2007, 01:59:10 pm »
Actually I don't really care about Karma, (Not anymore) exactly cause of these "stupid little games" XD how Kiwi calls them.
IMO, Karma should be taken a bit more serious. It just doesn't show anything yet... just how often your friends applaud you.

But on the other hand, there is also the thing with stealing. If you steal, you loose very much Karma in a very short time. Also that is something that makes the Karma thingy useless then... Because if someone steals, he immediatley gets minus karma, look at Screams, look at all the other who have like -200 - 1000 karma, they aren't really that stupid and don't deserve such a low Karma.

If you could buy "10 Karma points to give" in the shop for credits, that would make Karma much more worth, so we could get rid of the Karmaspam. Well "buying" it is maybe a bit exaggerated, but I mean it just in General, making the Karma to something that isn't "free", something of what you don't have an infinite stock.

But if we get rid of the Karma system, I find bart's idea evry good. (Keeping comments skipping + - )
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Duality

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2007, 02:10:49 pm »
Actually I don't really care about Karma, (Not anymore) exactly cause of these "stupid little games" XD how Kiwi calls them.
IMO, Karma should be taken a bit more serious. It just doesn't show anything yet... just how often your friends applaud you.

I just can't understand why you say something like that when your karma changes shows this


[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   ShadowNinja (+45/-50)   +   iflagshouldbedefeatedletsstartoutwithyou!!   In topic   Today at 12:37:09 AM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   [leke]GrassNinja (+136/-71)   +   chch ja wae warms bier =D   In topic   April 12, 2007, 06:32:29 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   Boss (+45/-60)   -   for 30 smites of you, you get one back   In topic   March 31, 2007, 07:56:45 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   ShadowNinja (+45/-50)   +   likewise   In topic   March 28, 2007, 08:27:12 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   Boss (+45/-60)   -   beautiful weather today grass, not?   In topic   March 24, 2007, 05:28:33 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   [leke]GrassNinja (+136/-71)   +   stirb biuiger boss!   In topic   March 24, 2007, 04:30:09 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   [leke]GrassNinja (+136/-71)   +   ja gaege boss. chum mir nueze jedi chance! (chch)   In topic   March 23, 2007, 07:27:53 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   W.we (+65/-15)   +   gib_BIER   In topic   March 18, 2007, 10:02:51 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   Durza (+20/-126)   +   for -100, looks perfect   In topic   March 18, 2007, 06:20:14 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   ShadowNinja (+45/-50)   +   up again   In topic   March 18, 2007, 02:18:48 PM

Anyways the karma system could make sense but it seems that on thease forums there are way to many persons who don't get the purpose of karma  ;)
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[leke]LemonNinja

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2007, 02:21:31 pm »
Actually I don't really care about Karma, (Not anymore) exactly cause of these "stupid little games" XD how Kiwi calls them.
IMO, Karma should be taken a bit more serious. It just doesn't show anything yet... just how often your friends applaud you.

I just can't understand why you say something like that when your karma changes shows this


[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   ShadowNinja (+45/-50)   +   iflagshouldbedefeatedletsstartoutwithyou!!   In topic   Today at 12:37:09 AM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   [leke]GrassNinja (+136/-71)   +   chch ja wae warms bier =D   In topic   April 12, 2007, 06:32:29 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   Boss (+45/-60)   -   for 30 smites of you, you get one back   In topic   March 31, 2007, 07:56:45 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   ShadowNinja (+45/-50)   +   likewise   In topic   March 28, 2007, 08:27:12 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   Boss (+45/-60)   -   beautiful weather today grass, not?   In topic   March 24, 2007, 05:28:33 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   [leke]GrassNinja (+136/-71)   +   stirb biuiger boss!   In topic   March 24, 2007, 04:30:09 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   [leke]GrassNinja (+136/-71)   +   ja gaege boss. chum mir nueze jedi chance! (chch)   In topic   March 23, 2007, 07:27:53 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   W.we (+65/-15)   +   gib_BIER   In topic   March 18, 2007, 10:02:51 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   Durza (+20/-126)   +   for -100, looks perfect   In topic   March 18, 2007, 06:20:14 PM
[leke]LemonNinja (+100/-56)   ShadowNinja (+45/-50)   +   up again   In topic   March 18, 2007, 02:18:48 PM

Anyways the karma system could make sense but it seems that on thease forums there are way to many persons who don't get the purpose of karma  ;)

Well. The swissgerman things you don't understand, why do you take them as example?
And if I say "For 30 smites you get one back" then that is just to express how I don't like him. What would you do if someone just doesnt stop smiting you? Btw, I think you didn't always click on the link "In Topic" so you don't really understand why I wrote it. Anyways...

Look whos talking ;>     In topic     April 06, 2007, 05:03:11 PM
Duality (+33/-13)    KiwiNinja (+72/-13)    -    He has way to high karma >D    In topic    April 05, 2007, 09:18:55 PM
Duality (+33/-13)    Hidden Dragon (+12/-8)    -    Goddamn learn to read!    In topic    April 05, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
Duality (+33/-13)    Durza (+20/-126)    -    Pathethic guy.    In topic    April 04, 2007, 02:24:40 PM
Duality (+33/-13)    ShadowNinja (+45/-50)    -    Annoying little bastard ^^    In topic    April 04, 2007, 02:10:11 PM
Duality (+33/-13)    Boss (+45/-60)    -    Vitu pahiss ;D;D;D;D;;D    In topic    April 03, 2007, 08:00:28 PM
Duality (+33/-13)    ShadowNinja (+45/-50)    -    Pathethic :)

I wouldn't, Duality =P
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Duality

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2007, 02:27:25 pm »
Well all of those smites were right on their place if mr detective would press 'In Topic' hesself  ;)
Only the kiwininja smite was a bit unnesessary but he has way to high karma to act like he does.
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[leke]LemonNinja

Re: Karma system going down
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2007, 02:30:36 pm »
Well all of those smites were right on their place if mr detective would press 'In Topic' hesself  ;)
Only the kiwininja smite was a bit unnesessary but he has way to high karma to act like he does.

So being pathetic is a reason to get smited? Btw I don't understand why you smite with a smile on the face...
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Re: Karma system going down
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