Topic: Making an extensive Strategy, Tactics and Action guide for LX (Read 6751 times)

Gaston · « **on:** September 10, 2006, 10:03:22 pm »

I was thinking of this today, and thought that it may be possible to compile one with the cross expertize of the people at LXA. So to help me make this guide I need your help. Whatever kind of tip you have for doing whatever I would appreciate it much to help me make this guide as I myself haven't got anywhere near the required expertize to help both new and old with how they should play lx. A great example of what I am looking for is Z01's thread here that gives great strategy advise for both Liero 1.0 and Zelda. if you want to contribute you can either reply to this thread or you could pm me with what you got for the game. I hope everyone who can, helps out here so we can actually make an extensive guide here.

OK, on to the sections, there are three sections here. Strategy, Tactic and Action.

Strategy: general advise on any mod and level, like "try to stay above your enemy", "dont waste ammunition", "if you move faster, the enemy has less chance of hitting you, but don't expose yourself to him though"

Tactic: More specific advise that can concern mods and levels. e.g. "In Lambdabunker with rifles 20lt, try to wait with using your combo until you got a clear shot on the enemy and he has no chance to jump or dodge the shots", "when you are out of ammo in 100lt, and need a quick reload to keep your enemy away, napalm reloads quickly and can do much damage if hit correctly on the enemy, and will keep him somewhat away"

Action: This is very mod and level specific, for example: "when you are playing rifles only, a way to jump higher than usual is to aim the rifle as downwards as you can, jump and right after you pressed the jump button fire your rifle", "To surprise attack an enemy which is pretty close and standing on the ground, you can shoot the supershotgun the opposite way than where the enemy is, and a bit downwards, then the recoil will push you over the enemy and if you are quick enough and shift to napalm and shoot before you pass over your enemy you are able to hit him with the napalm. This takes some training to master though"

when you contribute your tips it would be incredibly handy if you specified what section your tip is for. If you have any doubt of what it is a good way to find out is: does it depend on a mod or/and a level? if no it is a strategic advise. If you are in doubt wether it is a tactical or a action guidline, answer this question for yourself: Does it's exsecution depend on a player doing a specific move/shot? If yes it is an action tip.

Everyone who contributes towards this guide will of course get their names mentioned when/if it gets done.

[leke]LemonNinja · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2006, 10:10:19 pm »

This is great, and that was while I was in your server

I have no addings at the moment, but i will think about it and for sure give some instructions to some mods or levels or whatever could be helpful.

A question: SHould it be a guide for beginners? So should we add things like that you can shoot through thin walls?

Gaston · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2006, 10:13:32 pm »

It should be a guide for everyone, so that there will be tips for newbies, intermediates and experts.

Kurt · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2006, 10:34:03 pm »

LieroX is a simple 2D shooting game.
Only objective is to kill, kill, kill. So there aren't many tactics and stuff in it.
Best you can do is probably write a guide about best weapons and how to use them, but for other things practicing ingame is far more effective than reading a guide.

Gaston · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2006, 10:50:44 pm »

Practice makes perfect, but practice wont help a bit unless you know what you are practicing on, which is where this guide (hopefully) comes into play. If you see an ingame move by someone else, and you are unable to replicate it, you could look up howto in the guide, and then practice it ingame until you got it by yourself. this guide isn't something that should replace training in lx it is merely something that hopefully will help players to utilize their training better.

Raziel · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2006, 11:00:59 pm »

Honestly, if you seriously gonna make such a thing, then I will support Kurt this time. It's a SHOOTING game. Ever seen ANYONE who would read guide for shooter? Zilion quake masters had to read few guidlines before they touched keyboard, all CS movies stars spent hours in the CS Learning Zone, where they patienty listened to boring voice of old pricks, who tried to epxlain what, how, when. Yeah suuuuuuuuuuuuuure. At least, it must be some abnormal dude, if he prefers read some weird guide, isntead make his fingers used to keyboard settings.

Now consider tiny fact, that NOT EVEN ONE newcomer, who is below 14 will bother to read somethign like that. Older guys that 14, already played enough many shooters, to FEEL what is needed in this kind of games, so all they need is becoming Cowboy of the Keyboard - not Guide Readers. No offense, really. It's amazing how you want to take care fo this community, and treat it like serious people instead bunch of blood thirsty kiddos. So good luck with continuing. I bet all OLD players will read it with pleasure, but they know this all already.

Ah, and if you will write it using serious language, without even pinch of sense of humour, then it will be piece of crap. I will be stuck after 5th line, and I think many other people will get bored as well.

Pathos · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2006, 11:12:46 pm »

Personnally, I think its great idea to make a guide. It would be useful to players who are just starting to become multimodders.

Mr. Pimp · « **Reply #7 on:** September 11, 2006, 12:30:56 am »

I agree it is a great idea. And yes shooters do take stategy, tactics, and skill. Have you ever played CS 1.6? Do you want us to post our tips in here or pm you?

Gaston · « **Reply #8 on:** September 11, 2006, 12:37:13 am »

Whatever suits you really. If you want to pm or want to post it here is up to you.

Krayonaise · « **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2006, 01:27:42 am »

There's a difference between teaching people to play smart or play honorably. And it's much easier to teach players to play smart. By playing smart, they must camp, lag and spam. By teaching players to play honorably, you will be asking newbies to do things that put them in an obvious disposition. Do you really wanna make supernoob newbies or players that get totally owned by those supernoob newbies? I say let them learn it themselves so they personally choose what they want to be: a smart player or an honorable player.

Asrack · « **Reply #10 on:** September 11, 2006, 05:46:55 am »

Quote from: Krayonaise on September 11, 2006, 01:27:42 am

There's a difference between teaching people to play smart or play honorably. And it's much easier to teach players to play smart. By playing smart, they must camp, lag and spam. By teaching players to play honorably, you will be asking newbies to do things that put them in an obvious disposition. Do you really wanna make supernoob newbies or players that get totally owned by those supernoob newbies? I say let them learn it themselves so they personally choose what they want to be: a smart player or an honorable player.

I couldent have said it better myself. Nice going KRay.

Nico · « **Reply #11 on:** September 11, 2006, 08:01:03 am »

I think its a good idea at the sametime a bad idea.

The good is that if its for every mod.
Ppl that arnt that active in one mod maybe gets activ in just that mod cause he knows it better after the guide.

And the bad.
Well as Raz said, small kiddoes wont waste their time to read it.

[leke]GrassNinja · « **Reply #12 on:** September 11, 2006, 12:01:15 pm »

most things i learned from watching other players while i was out. its the best way to learn, IMO.
in some cases, is a 'teacher' needed, like in rifles, the double-shot. also lamda moving/shooting tricks r very helpful, but u can learn them by watching other players.

and yes, i think that noone would read this guide until the end without getting bored.

[leke]LemonNinja · « **Reply #13 on:** September 11, 2006, 12:37:31 pm »

I think, that MOST of the things you can learn ingame while watching others.
But some things can be helpful if you know them, really. It doesnt have to be a huge guide, just one you can read in 5 minutes.
I'll do my part for this guide, coming up this evening

Z01 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2006, 12:50:31 pm »

I can contribute.

I dont know if it will be used much either, but for those interested or bored it can be fun.

[leke]LemonNinja · « **Reply #15 on:** September 11, 2006, 07:40:53 pm »

Ruki · « **Reply #16 on:** September 11, 2006, 07:58:24 pm »

I don't think it's a bad idea... i KNOW that. If it pleasures you, go ahead. But it is just a waste of time.

Cloud · « **Reply #17 on:** September 11, 2006, 08:01:17 pm »

You put some nice advice Lemon, good job. However, I can not see the whole Lamda Bunker map, I only see 60 % of it. The right and the top is cut off.

Also, I have taken 2 on 1 situations in Lamda, and I wasnt owned in all cases

[leke]LemonNinja · « **Reply #18 on:** September 11, 2006, 08:05:52 pm »

Quote from: Ruki on September 11, 2006, 07:58:24 pm

I don't think it's a bad idea... i KNOW that. If it pleasures you, go ahead. But it is just a waste of time.

If it does not pleasure you, dont waste your time with reading it and give an answer which does not help me.

I already told my opinion to this in this thread, I dont want to repeat it again.

Swift · « **Reply #19 on:** September 11, 2006, 09:21:45 pm »

Today im with the oposition. Tricks come after the skills. If you arent a master of the weapons yet what do you have to do with tricks they will fail. Like in your first post Hwoarang, if you dont know when to shoot to hit if you are flying over someone you cant do anything with this shotgun recoil trick. But if you are master with the stuff you can come to the idea yourself or you already have seen it ingame and tried to imitate it.
Tricks grow with your skills, so a guide not for kinde pro's is a total waste of time.

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