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Modern Warfare1.0 – 20lt
IP: 37.205.11.54
Game Mode: Death Match
Lives: 0
Max Kills: 15
Version: OpenLieroX 0.58 rc3

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Unknown – 0lt
IP: 77.189.177.74
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Max Kills: 0
Version: LieroX 0.56b

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Unknown – 0lt
IP: 178.165.31.252
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Max Kills: 0
Version: LieroX 0.56b

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Liero v1.0 – 100lt
IP: 91.156.42.210
Game Mode: Death Match
Lives: 5
Max Kills: 20
Version: OpenLieroX 0.58 rc3

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Cruel v0.96 – 50lt
IP: 69.255.183.244
Game Mode: Death Match
Lives: 5
Max Kills: 0
Version: OpenLieroX 0.58 rc3

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iRod(0 lives, 0 kills)
[CPU]I'm Not A Human(5 lives, 0 kills)
Pagan(5 lives, 0 kills)

Naruto 1.26 NT – 20lt
IP: 36.229.0.106
Game Mode: Hide and Seek
Lives: 3
Max Kills: 3
Version: OpenLieroX 0.58 rc3

Players:
123(3 lives, 4 kills)
ada(0 lives, 0 kills)

Liero v1.0 – 100lt
IP: 88.74.180.222
Game Mode: Death Match
Lives: 0
Max Kills: 15
Version: OpenLieroX 0.58 rc3

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SaxonyGamer(0 lives, 0 kills)
[CPU] K1ll0r(0 lives, 0 kills)
[CPU] Kamikazee!(0 lives, 0 kills)
[CPU] N00b(0 lives, 0 kills)
Guppy(0 lives, 0 kills)

[kokbira]

A lot of online games do automatic update to their software. So corrections of them are applied often and generally are hidden from user.

Why do not implement that in OLX? So you can solve the problem of user saying "I'll use only 0.56." and "I'll use only 0.58".

Also:

1. All players must use the updated game to play (if it is outdated, it will automatically update). So it will force all people to use the last version to play.

2. Corrections must be applied quickly, without the need of waiting a new great release. It would correct little bugs. If others appeared with corrections, it will quickly killed with another one.

3. There, it would have some gameplay modes, as in another online games. So people choose how to play. If there aren't players enough to host their kind of game, they have to play the other mode or to wait.
3.1. Oldschool / 0.56: modes only for riffles/mortars/classic with old physics
3.2. New age: to play with 0.58/0.59 modes (including Gusanos dynamic levels) and new features to be developed in future

[DarkCharlie]

That's something Google or Mozilla can afford. We currently do not have resources to build such a system. You are welcome to contribute though

[joni]

DC, weren't there some kind of update thingy inside OLX before?

[kokbira]

That's something Google or Mozilla can afford. We currently do not have resources to build such a system. You are welcome to contribute though

Well, waiting for me is the slowest way, since I could not compile code until now nor have time enough to spend in such kind of work... You have already the knife and the cheese on your hands

[Raziel]

Um yeah going along with your metaphore - you just asked him to do another five hundreds of thusands cheese sandwiches.

It's the easiest way to say "No no, you can do it better than me, I would have to learn all of it from scratches". Yeah well, they did have to start from zero as well

Not to mention - the idea with forced updates was a bad one to begin with. Many of us didn't want such thing, because not all of the updates were stable enough, and we've got enough of "cool new features".

[kokbira]

Um yeah going along with your metaphore - you just asked him to do another five hundreds of thusands cheese sandwiches.

It's the easiest way to say "No no, you can do it better than me, I would have to learn all of it from scratches". Yeah well, they did have to start from zero as well

Not to mention - the idea with forced updates was a bad one to begin with. Many of us didn't want such thing, because not all of the updates were stable enough, and we've got enough of "cool new features".

The problem is that users don't know what are their needs. If new features are better, none is claiming for the old version, and if two different versions don't exist none is claiming to use one instead of another, although following my way is creating a third version... And how can you say "not all of the updates were stable enough"? Do you have numbers to argue?

I'm suggesting an way to think about. Even I can program, I'm allowed to say my user opinion. Also I'm not saying that "you can do better than me" but "you can do faster than me". Everyone can do that since it is open source - if you cannot program, learn it before it (everyone can learn it too).

[joni]

Um yeah going along with your metaphore - you just asked him to do another five hundreds of thusands cheese sandwiches.

It's the easiest way to say "No no, you can do it better than me, I would have to learn all of it from scratches". Yeah well, they did have to start from zero as well

Not to mention - the idea with forced updates was a bad one to begin with. Many of us didn't want such thing, because not all of the updates were stable enough, and we've got enough of "cool new features".

The problem is that users don't know what are their needs. If new features are better, none is claiming for the old version, and if two different versions don't exist none is claiming to use one instead of another, although following my way is creating a third version... And how can you say "not all of the updates were stable enough"? Do you have numbers to argue?

Actually I'd still rollback to LX56 if it would had any players or at least servers didn't had minimum LX version to join so high.

[Wander]

This thread is going towards the same discussion that was held so many times on these boards.

Jason, to try and head back a few posts, it seems you have some time on your hands and would like to invest some of it into this game of (y)ours. I'm sure I can speak for all of us when I say we're very happy to hear this!

The way I see it, you have 2 basic options to do it:
If you just want to work on your code and improve your own game without having to go through the hassle of OLX, go ahead and do it! We all owe you forever for making this game in the first place anyway, so yeah, when you're finished, we'll check it out.
However, if you're interested in doing something for this community, something that will really make the game we play better and more appealing for newcomers, it would probably be best to find a way in which you can bundle your forces with the OLX team. Be it simply by joining them, by somehow implementing your improvements so far into OLX or in any other way. What this game needs is not having 2 separate games again, each with their pro's and con's, but one game that goes forward and becomes something better. OLX has come a very long way since LX, and it would be a damn shame to either throw it all away or have to do it all again.

[Tafka]

This thread is going towards the same discussion that was held so many times on these boards.

Jason, to try and head back a few posts, it seems you have some time on your hands and would like to invest some of it into this game of (y)ours. I'm sure I can speak for all of us when I say we're very happy to hear this!

The way I see it, you have 2 basic options to do it:
If you just want to work on your code and improve your own game without having to go through the hassle of OLX, go ahead and do it! We all owe you forever for making this game in the first place anyway, so yeah, when you're finished, we'll check it out.
However, if you're interested in doing something for this community, something that will really make the game we play better and more appealing for newcomers, it would probably be best to find a way in which you can bundle your forces with the OLX team. Be it simply by joining them, by somehow implementing your improvements so far into OLX or in any other way. What this game needs is not having 2 separate games again, each with their pro's and con's, but one game that goes forward and becomes something better. OLX has come a very long way since LX, and it would be a damn shame to either throw it all away or have to do it all again.

I guess it would be kinda hard for Jason to work by someone else's vision about the game. From what I understood he wants to keep it simple 2D game and work with his own code, which is not what he can do with OLX.

One good thing community kinda needs really is clanbase.

[JasonB]

I kinda have a different vision/direction in mind than OLX.

Which is part of the reason why i would rebrand it as LieroX 2. Just so it doesn't quite have the same association with any particular version.

That might work, or it could be an utter failure. I hope not the latter

[DarkCharlie]

Good luck Do you plan to open source it or keep it closed source?

[JasonB]

Good luck Do you plan to open source it or keep it closed source?

I don't know. I don't want to start promising things too early.
I'm doing a bit of contract work on the side at the moment, so i havn't really had a chance to get back into it.

[Punisher for real]

Okay JasobB the god, 56b god

thers still many things what to be needed.

for me i knoe alot i mean alot of rc3 bugs and yeah it suck balls. Fist i remember when i sendes you email like ****ing years agi when you had that universal shit websate open. I was so activate so i found some.

but for real JasonB, i have played ur game nince 03 december and yeah still here. Ilx enxtendd ****ing RC3 or whats its called till then i remember when you released 0.55b source, not 56b, because you didint had it. But anyways, its just going bad and bad, and yes some say "damn were good, withouth our some ****ing patchehesd lx wont be there anyway". For real i want to say just for you ruki, you liked so ****ing much all new feathures, like that BAN ****ing COMMAND, yea BAN, did you ever think that this game gendre is so ****ing small so "np we ban all new ppl", ****ing idiot. And yeah i can say ****ing many more new controls what killed "ur ****ing fancy" from us". Thanks for LX Guard ****ing peace of shit. n%n%n%n%.

And yeah JasonB, most o respect here in lx is yóu. Make LX2 dont look behind Lx ****inh anythint verion is it, you made 56b, you keep it like, these ****ers killed and thats for sure. Thank you ruku and ****in p and so on.

But if you really want to know rc3 bugs, leathal i can say more than 10-20. Witch are more than #"red" case on bugs. but yea why so stupid to relead those bugs. It must be ****ing stupid delolv, oh mean albert should you even once play the game before release ****ing """". And yeah those bughs can be fixed like "naps" just play the ****ing game and watch the code.

okay tis is 3 time when i true to type this damn message, I was just saying that keep 56b life and ur own dreams. Dont listen those olx deleober make ur own game as LX2 and go on that, lx is ****ed up thanks for those wierd delopers who didint even play the game for 2 hours.

nostalgia for you jason, dint get anything else that server sceen
http://web.archive.org/web/20070821013620/http://lieroxtreme.thegaminguniverse.com/server/index.php

[Punisher for real]

delete, and yeah make deleting post ****inhg idiots

[Flare]

Just saying...

Most of the active people who played during time before OLX would happily go back to 0.56 times if it was possible. I think, and many others think that OLX has added way too many useless and shitty options while introducing new bugs and things like the new spawn system which is ****ing stupid and makes people think: "did developers test this game for even 1 minute."

There is only few features I like which 0.56b didnt have, and here they are:
- Want to join message
- Joining server even when it is in game
- Weapon ban lists can be saved
- Suicide command

Cant think about any other feature I NEED or think that are usefull or needed, ofc there are minor things like teamchat which can be added since they dont change gameplay.

[Hatten]

We've all heard "it was better before ..." dozens of times. Will all the users magically come back if we all decide to start playing 0.56b? no, for me to start playing again olx would have to get some fat updates with new content, and ladders and clan activity would have to go up. There are simply better games out there, and I bet i'm not alone.