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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #80 on: September 02, 2009, 12:32:00 pm »
I think that these flames have  gotten a bit harsh. I think FoH is/was a great set of players keep in mind they had some negatives but all clans have that.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #81 on: September 02, 2009, 12:42:32 pm »
I'm curious.

Axe is made up of a few people I've played against a lot in the past.

Cumi and Rambake(FoH). I've heard these guys are great in rifles, but I seem to remember beating them 2:0 on lamda rifles and LFR rifles, almost every weekend. Oh and the odd 100lt and shitty stupid setting we won at.

Flame and Punisher, and Luffy, probably the only people I would consider "skilled" in Axe.

Others, I've never played with.

So to me, this clan just seems like every other clan out there, mediocre with few good members and few okay.

It's funny... Players like Legendkiller, Gyogyi.. They were good before.. But now others have gotten better and if LK and Gyo would come back and try to get better skills, at the same time, the active ones are getting better. So there is no way for Gyo or LK never be on the same level as some active players.
And there is no such thing like "losing skills", there is just "leaving behind".
Forget about the quote tho, I felt I needed one here. Tho beating some guys before doesn't mean you can beat them now.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #82 on: September 02, 2009, 02:06:14 pm »
The post above sounds pretty much bshit to my ears. For example you can't categorize people in to two active and inactive groups and then say the inactive can't beat active. Every player is a individual, some might take a one year brake and be just as good as they used to. Some may take a one year brake and basically canno't play at all anymore.

And some people learn faster than others, quoting to the sentence 'when gyo or lk gets better the active players get better too'. Have you seen Zapp playing? He plays once or twice a year and is still incredibly good. For most of us there's this rustyness after especially a long break. I bet if gyo or lk or anybody who "used to be good" starts playing now after a break it won't take long that they'll be on the top again.

Good players are either good because they are, or they have just played a lot. Some need more training than others this is why you can't say the inactive people can't beat active people, because both will get better...

That's just the top of the iceberg what I see wrong in your post.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #83 on: September 02, 2009, 02:31:27 pm »
I'm curious.

Axe is made up of a few people I've played against a lot in the past.

Cumi and Rambake(FoH). I've heard these guys are great in rifles, but I seem to remember beating them 2:0 on lamda rifles and LFR rifles, almost every weekend. Oh and the odd 100lt and shitty stupid setting we won at.

Flame and Punisher, and Luffy, probably the only people I would consider "skilled" in Axe.

Others, I've never played with.

So to me, this clan just seems like every other clan out there, mediocre with few good members and few okay.

It's funny... Players like Legendkiller, Gyogyi.. They were good before.. But now others have gotten better and if LK and Gyo would come back and try to get better skills, at the same time, the active ones are getting better. So there is no way for Gyo or LK never be on the same level as some active players.
And there is no such thing like "losing skills", there is just "leaving behind".
Forget about the quote tho, I felt I needed one here. Tho beating some guys before doesn't mean you can beat them now.

Thats the whole point of random flaming Iliera.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #84 on: September 02, 2009, 02:53:57 pm »
The post above sounds pretty much bshit to my ears. For example you can't categorize people in to two active and inactive groups and then say the inactive can't beat active. Every player is a individual, some might take a one year brake and be just as good as they used to. Some may take a one year brake and basically canno't play at all anymore.

And some people learn faster than others, quoting to the sentence 'when gyo or lk gets better the active players get better too'. Have you seen Zapp playing? He plays once or twice a year and is still incredibly good. For most of us there's this rustyness after especially a long break. I bet if gyo or lk or anybody who "used to be good" starts playing now after a break it won't take long that they'll be on the top again.

Good players are either good because they are, or they have just played a lot. Some need more training than others this is why you can't say the inactive people can't beat active people, because both will get better...

That's just the top of the iceberg what I see wrong in your post.

It's wrong. Only way to be shitty after a break is if you had some trauma, lost virginity or something like that..
And I would say that zapp or any other inactive players are just as good as they were before, but it doesn't mean that their old "good" is still good in LieroX.
I have had a lot of random duels. And all the inactive ones(that don't have circumstances to play lierox every day) are no problem to beat. They can have nice shots and good combo, but that doesn't mean they are good or near to equality.
It's like mortars... there are no good players in mortars, there are just the typical spammers that win because they like(or have the patience) to waste more time on one round.
You know there is a saying that if you can ride bike once, you can always ride a bike. Duelling is a nice way to see that some inactive ones(that were in the top) are good, but the speed of an active player is just easily stronger.
And same goes to you, pera. Although you play like once a week nowadays, you aren't match for most of the active ones that have played for SOME amount of time. BUT you still have your good old skills, although they are left behind compared to the active ones.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #85 on: September 02, 2009, 03:25:54 pm »

Good players are either good because they are, or they have just played a lot. Some need more training than others this is why you can't say the inactive people can't beat active people, because both will get better...

That's just the top of the iceberg what I see wrong in your post.

...It's wrong. Only way to be shitty after a break is if you had some trauma, lost virginity or something like that..

...Duelling is a nice way to see that some inactive ones(that were in the top) are good, but the speed of an active player is just easily stronger...

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Having a break has effect on your skills for sure. I can't get it how can you even think this is not true. I know I was better when I used to be active. You said that I'm not good enough to beat the top players. Can you name a few, do you count yourself as a top player? If so I'm up for some duels. I've had couple long breaks now so I really do know how they have effects on my game. Now the skill level in general is in that level that it won't probably take huge jumps either way. I don't really think there's nobody I couldn't beat. There's of course people I feel are better than me, but haven't met anybody who would make me feel I couldn't beat him/her.

You said that the inactive players don't have same speed as active players. That's a great example how the breaks have effect on you ;D. At least to me the first thing I always notice after having a break is that my movement sucks.

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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #86 on: September 02, 2009, 03:47:21 pm »
I'm up for the challenge :)
So far none of the Ospers or AoGers have been a trouble in a legit duel..
Tho I'm pretty sure I wont count myself into the top players.. But I'm everything enough to beat Osp anytime. best of 5 would be awesome today, but i'm leaving for 2 hours atm, so we can meet in the evening, ok?
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #87 on: September 02, 2009, 03:54:22 pm »
Yep iliera, i disagree with a few of your claims as well, because when i didn't play lx for 2 years, i sucked more than a person who had played it for only a couple of weeks. Only thing with what i had an advantage over him was that, i could get better much faster because i still remembered how to play in theory, but wasn't able to do it in reality.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2009, 10:20:26 am »
Hey I saw Samara's comment, and I doubt Samara could even last in my server.
P.S: Gent. I want to duel you because you seem active again and I enjoyed our duels.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2009, 11:46:28 am »
Woah now. Let's take a quick look in the past. This all began when I published the truth behind [WvW], which however didn't turn into chaos, despite what I had expected. However, then Thor came in and he surely done the duty. Thor's blog was soon followed by Kurt's blog. Ever since Kurt's blog the subjects have varied from WvW's unity to the question if AoG is greater than WvW or vice versa. Seriously now, this discussion won't lead anywhere, though, now that I think of it, this is quite much fun to read. So, just ignore what I said and.. carry on!

Haha, yeah. Checked this thread after a long time and nice to see some people taking over the flaming instead of me =D

PS Thor, you even lose to WvW in trolling, look at how few responses your fatty's blog has :(

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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2009, 01:34:57 pm »
xd Atleast I don't use as pathetic arguments as you.. It just shows how desperate person (read: Kurt) is when he gets on personal. Grow up?

And it of course shows what's the level of the clan when there are persons like this. :)

But yeah, it's fun to see guys like Gent back on whining and how AoG is related to this. Keep it going. =D
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Gent.

Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #91 on: September 03, 2009, 01:44:53 pm »
But yeah, it's fun to see guys like Gent back on whining

Pardon me? I don't understand how I whined about anything. I stated my opinion. I don't understand how that is whining. I don't think the situation really involves any kind of whining from anyone.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #92 on: September 03, 2009, 04:19:47 pm »
And it of course shows what's the level of the clan when there are persons like this. :)

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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #93 on: September 03, 2009, 04:56:52 pm »
exactly.
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Re: Kurt's blog
« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2009, 01:00:18 am »
Damn Russ, I laughed a lot on that last picture and its comment :D

Otherwise I see no point in fighting for the glory of "whos better".

AoG was better - WvW is better now- no point to argue.

And no Kurt in a cw against Z01 and I back then you never had even a single chance .( Best example was when you left for 8 months and samara for 2 years after us beating you and Samara in your last period when you 2 were in the same clan.)Its a clear fact and will always be. And no, I didnt say you are not and were not a great player. You were and You are.

Then again its pointless to say what about AoGs other 10 members. For that upcoming question I would say, clans are a group of ppl- they do things together and the final result is what counts.

About or active playing cw list I do not see anything special on it. "newbie" clan cw percentage isnt higher than anywhere else. Especially if I look at some clan's ( I dont mean WvW here, but some other which you might know anway ;))

Now thats again an other thing if you look nowadays cw list you only see cw vs T3, aC , WvW or Axe most of the time. Thats more related to the game as a general problem, lack of clan variety. Thats not our business though as it is a result of various things.


I agree with Caesars post completely- but that answer was natural as we love eachother so .. :)


And about the active and inactive players theme For the first time I agree with Ilirea on that its really possible to get stuck on a good lvl for an inactive player while others get better so when he comes back he wont be in the top anymore.
     But then again its a two way thing. When an inactive player comes back to play a few games it denepds on the person itself if he can get into shape after just a few rounds or minutes or it should take a few weeks.
    Cizin and Legendkiller on example would clearly belong to the team who cant play for good if they havent played for a while.
    I consider z01 and I would belong to the other group with Zapp on example - who can play on their old level in general just after a few games. Only thing which MATTERs and can be different compared to newer players is the fact how much we care about results and all.
And here I must say- its a lot harder to care about it after years of playing. There are players who succeed in that . Best example is Luffy and its even hard to imagine for me how he is able to cope with it all the time after years and years, and still be one of the "best " "Smart" players after participating in so many clanwars. I for example couldnt do that for such a long time. For 1-1 round or cw its all okay but constantly its hard for me.


These were my thoughts about all these.

And if anyone thinks it really started as an AoG vs WvW fight its bullshit. We loved to cw eachother back then in the Uw times as well and it was the same when WvW was born. I personally love and know most WvW members fairly well. Personal opinions exsist however and are free to be said( like kurts in this case) But from the active AoG and WvW period of view- he isnt even a part of WvW so it sounds funny to bring such thoughts up. :)


PS to kurt: dont take anything offensive- I just said my thoughts- so if you mind to reply in this thread in the future- feel free to ignore my post as I didnt mind starting any personal argue with you and wont mind doing it later either. ( You know I like u anyway so yeah.. :))

EDIT: Damn I had to- just read the first post of this thread and I've found it soo awesome. that post (quote made my day/night :D:D).


Have fun everybody and all.

Cheers.

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