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Title: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 04:02:05 am


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 04:02:24 am
Group 1: RuNyoufool
[RIP] Morby
[C4] wildcat
[NtO] Mr.Pimp
BS>Duality*
3vuLicious ([e3] Anubis)

Group 2: Morby
[e3] RuN
~ALT~ Autumn*
(V) Asrack
Hatten
Valk

Group 3: Milec
[Uw] Origin
(V) Purplehaze
[T3] Samara
[C4] HaVoc
[T3] Tafka

Group 4: Origin
[Osp] MileC
(V) Cloud
[Osp] Kurt
ShoJu
[OwZ] W.we

Reserve Hosts:
Cloud
Fierce

Wildcard players:

~ALT~Leon
[BOL] Pena
[BOL] KaKKaKasa
[OwZ] Swift
~ALT~'SL*Gyogyi*
X4VI3R
[leke]LemonNinja

Check this also for additional info:
http://lxalliance.net/smf/index.php/topic,2925.msg35107.html#msg35107
http://lxalliance.net/smf/index.php/topic,2925.msg35162.html#msg35162


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Ahmed on October 08, 2006, 04:08:13 am
Hey Fierce, sounds like a good Idea.

Sign me up.

Game Name: ~ALT~ Autumn*
Msn: i'll pm the group host for me. when I know who it is.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 04:09:46 am
Alright, post your contact also will you? ::)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Ahmed on October 08, 2006, 04:10:50 am
I edited my post ;)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Asrack on October 08, 2006, 04:15:11 am
You have my contact details, and there private, so I won't post it here.

In game name : (V) Asrack

Pleaes let me sign up. :)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 04:18:00 am
Done, the little piece of paper drawn from a hat told me that your number is 2, so it's your group.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Ahmed on October 08, 2006, 04:19:50 am
Done, the little piece of paper drawn from a hat told me that your number is 2, so it's your group.

welcome to group 2 :) XD

anyways morby should already have my contact info ;)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: wildcat on October 08, 2006, 04:20:21 am
sign me up  :D


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 04:25:45 am
Sure... so your name is just wildcat ingame? And do you have contact? Or will you contact the host directly?


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: wildcat on October 08, 2006, 04:40:37 am
My name in the game is- wildcat
You can reach me by email- wildcat1023@hotmail.com
Hosting- Yes, it averages on a ping of 37-42 (not sure about eruopeans though)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Ahmed on October 08, 2006, 04:49:06 am
My name in the game is- wildcat
You can reach me by email- wildcat1023@hotmail.com
Hosting- Yes, it averages on a ping of 37-42 (not sure about eruopeans though)

your ping isn't that good to me atleast ;)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Purplehaze on October 08, 2006, 04:53:40 am
hmm looks like fun.

sign me up, (V) Purplehaze
MSN: detpistonskid3@hotmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: darkazn on October 08, 2006, 04:58:41 am
sing i mean sign me up  ;D

in game name:[C4] HaVoc
msn: lilpnoy000neo@hotmail.com
         ^ i have the straightest msn name ever xD


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Mr. Pimp on October 08, 2006, 05:14:10 am
Sign me up

In-game- [NtO] Mr. Pimp
Msn- daywalker65@hotmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Kurt on October 08, 2006, 08:52:33 am
Oh isn't it fierce, the coolest tourny-hoster in town  8)
Sign me up, skandium@gmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Valk on October 08, 2006, 09:15:15 am
well i havent been in a tourny for along time so sign me up Fierce.

ingame name : Valk
Contact: Valkryi@hotmail.co.uk


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 08, 2006, 09:17:23 am
Hello Fierce :)
Tafka is here to take part :) Sign me up.
Carvanho@hot.ee


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Absinthe on October 08, 2006, 09:55:27 am
Sign me up  >:(

elyartheboy@hotmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: wildcat on October 08, 2006, 10:00:41 am
My name in the game is- wildcat
You can reach me by email- wildcat1023@hotmail.com
Hosting- Yes, it averages on a ping of 37-42 (not sure about eruopeans though)

your ping isn't that good to me atleast ;)

That depends where you live.  ;) Some people love it and some hate it.  ::)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on October 08, 2006, 10:25:46 am
sing me up, looks pretty fun  ;D
MSN:meditite_93@hotmail.com
i play as Hatten


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: holyboy33 on October 08, 2006, 10:39:53 am


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 11:02:32 am
Alright! Great to see so many guys already participating. :)
Check out the updated second post.

There's still (only) three spots left open, so as soon as we get e'm filled the show can start.
Remeber that even if those three spots are gone, be sure to register since from previous experience I can tell that wildcard players have a very good chances to get into the tournament as a replacement.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Duality on October 08, 2006, 11:10:41 am
im in for sure =)
im always ready for a challange ;>
nick : BS>Duality*
MSN : obbmaster@hotmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 08, 2006, 11:12:12 am
I'm in MileC server ? But he does't play? :( When can we do the game?


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: AnubisBlessing on October 08, 2006, 11:15:50 am
AnubisBlessing reporting for duty ;D
Contact info is anubisblessing@hotmail.com.

I'll play as 3vuLicious ;>
Let's get ready to rumble!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: wildcat on October 08, 2006, 11:20:03 am
Its [C4] wildcat lolz....


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 11:20:37 am
Alright, updates made...
One open spot left... :-[ crazy...

Anyway, Milec said that he will help out with this so he will show up Tafka, don't worry.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Wander on October 08, 2006, 01:17:35 pm
Looks like i got here right on time, to take that last spot right there :)

ingame nick: [OwZ] W.we
msn: wouter_elings@hotmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Leon on October 08, 2006, 02:31:23 pm
Well since all spots are filled, then sign me up as a wildcard pls :P

Ingame: ~ALT~Leon
MSN: leonz0mgz@hotmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: [BOL]Pena on October 08, 2006, 03:01:47 pm
Sing up [BOL]Pena and [BOL] KaKKaKasa :)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 08, 2006, 07:04:41 pm
Code: [Select]
1) In the first phase there will be four groups of five players, who will square off against each other in a bloody, cruel and sexy deathmatch, of which only the winner will advance to the next round. The rest will be declared as big time losers.
This means the the "Survivor" get's on to next round and kills doesn't matter? Explain please :P Is it that all players play 1 game at the same time (FFA game with 6 players) ..


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Swift on October 08, 2006, 07:28:48 pm
Can you put me with the wildcards plz?

Ingame: [OwZ] Swift
MSN: nielscasteel@hotmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: *Gyogyi* on October 08, 2006, 07:36:35 pm
hello Fierce and everyone else, well all i can say is i feel like joining to this tournament so plz add me :)
my name in game is:~ALT-L~'SL*Gyogyi*
and if u wouldnt know my msn is :
kicsidzsi1@freemail.hu


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: X4VI3R on October 08, 2006, 07:37:55 pm
Ill join whatever team

MSN: UE.Xavier2oo@gmail.com


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on October 08, 2006, 08:30:02 pm
Code: [Select]
1) In the first phase there will be four groups of five players, who will square off against each other in a bloody, cruel and sexy deathmatch, of which only the winner will advance to the next round. The rest will be declared as big time losers.
This means the the "Survivor" get's on to next round and kills doesn't matter? Explain please :P Is it that all players play 1 game at the same time (FFA game with 6 players) ..

What I understood is that the host will suicide and keep watch on the game play, to make sure its fair and also the kills. If I am gonna be one of the hosters, I will not tolerate camping, hopefully Fierce will make a rule against it.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 08, 2006, 09:14:42 pm
Someone is always camping.
I just want to know how will the killer be found.
If it's by kills them someone might just steal others kills.
If it's by lives someone might just camp til other 4 are dead/allmost dead.

There could be some better way (just my opinion) Else the real best wouldn't get on and some random guy would.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 09:19:36 pm
Yes Tafka, deathmatch is same as FFA.

As Cloud said, the hosts suicide and concentrate on keeping the score. So it will be a 5 player FFA.
The hosts are experienced players so I trust in their judgement skill, so if there will be camping, the player can be voted out of the tournament, but basically yes, the winner (last man/worm/whatever alive) is who advances. It's good that you can kill like a maniac, but saving your lives is also a part of the game, so that's why this ain't about the kamikaze kids. And as you said, it's impossible to make rules that will assure 100% satisfying and clean game.
If the winner of the round is the player disqualified, then the round will be re-played with a wildcard player replacing the disqualified one.

Note! The disqualified players will probably get a ban for the next tournaments also so it's really not recommendable. Somebody DQ'd will bring himself shame and bad reputation anyway so really guys, don't play dirty.

Alright, the next goes to all the wildcard players.
Be active! The calling may come quickly. Keep MSN's open and follow this thread to be up to date. The following isn't assured to work, but it may help:

Note! When the host gets the game arranged, he, if possibly, should post the date and time to this thread. It may work if it's arranged to happen in few days, as the wildcarders will know and try to be online for possible calling. Off course, the game may be arranged and played in a matter of minutes, so posting it won't help much, but it's still wished. So all you sexy hosts out there, keep this in mind.
The wildcard players are picked in the order of the second post. So the first ones to enter the tournament will be the first ones picked to play.


Anyway, there's some specifying info. Keep asking about something if you're unsure.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 08, 2006, 09:46:42 pm
Ok, So the winner will get to the next round even if he has 0 kills?
And if someone died as the last person (the 0 kills is alive) and has 15 kills wont?
Even if the 0 kills didn't camp.
Ok i got it :) Waiting for the games now :P


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Swift on October 08, 2006, 09:47:10 pm
And what if the count of wildcard players raize over your head? will there be made some new groups?


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Ahmed on October 08, 2006, 09:48:30 pm
I can play weekends and weekday nights for me, seeing I'm north american so school and stuff gets in my playing time with euro ppl:D


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 08, 2006, 11:36:35 pm
Well the hosts should try to arrange the things, but as you all know there's that barrier called time difference, and to break it we need co-operation from ALL you guys.
Even if it's hard, try to make time from your schedule. If everybody goes picky, this won't work.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 09, 2006, 01:15:29 am
Alright boys and girls (and the ones in-between), here's the level for the first phase of LXFT!

This level was never meant to be a glorious GFX masterpiece, or to have a magical flow when comes to gameplay. It was simply made to make your lives harder and take any level experience away from everybody. There's no shoot-thru-walls (a lie), no tricks, nothing... it's an annoyingly hard-to-play big level in it's purest form! Good luck taming it!

>>>DOWNLOAD (http://www.freewebs.com/fiercedownloads/Icedome.lxl)<<< (770 kb)

There will be a totally different level for phases 2 and 3 and it will be revealed later.
But for now on, I can proclame this tournament officially started! Good luck everyone!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Gaston on October 09, 2006, 01:22:55 am
It's a good levbel, but I beg to differ in the point that it got no shoot through walls. It got plenty :D


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: >--Faisal--> on October 09, 2006, 01:34:29 am
Well, this gona suck, its all Euro-servers. Anyways good luck with this tournament. I hope it doesnt lag.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Ahmed on October 09, 2006, 01:38:40 am
Well, this gona suck, its all Euro-servers. Anyways good luck with this tournament. I hope it doesnt lag.


screw lag, and those hosts have really good pings...


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Asrack on October 09, 2006, 01:43:37 am
Got it before I did, lag should make this game intresting.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Splinky on October 09, 2006, 02:00:38 am
The level doesnt work for me, i will redownload it. It looks like its large based on the filesize.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 09, 2006, 02:56:50 am
Well gents, lag will always be an issue.
The hosts have good servers, so I think that we will get the best possible games that we could have. In a case that the lag is a major issue, we could consider using Cloud's server. But for now on we'll go with these. All in all it should be playable in any case.

Splinky, yes, redownload it, it should work. And you guessed right, it's not the smallest level around ;)

We tested it with four players and it seemed to be better than it looked, so we can expect good and tight games!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on October 09, 2006, 04:39:29 am
Hey Origin, since your the hoster for my group, Ill give you the information when I can play. Friday 9:00 (GMT 0) the earliest on Friday and I can play later if I know you are gonna host. Also, I can play anytime on Saturday 5 :00 (GMT 0) is the earliest. My GMT is -5. I cant really play any other day since im too busy with school and other stuff.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: MiLeC on October 09, 2006, 06:21:02 am
I am trying to host my group during this week, try to be on msn during today and tomorrow those are the best days for me to play..

I added all in my group to my msn so dont wonder who is interupting you in near future.

I hope we will play it clean and fun ofcourse rules of the tourny means not any FB reckless gaming just for kills. This means more tactical gaming. But obvious camping and running and staying out from battle on purpouse continiously to gain win will get me mad. My freelook cam can be everywhere at the same time!!!  ::)

I just hope goodgames in goodspirit as always :) Cya in game..  :-*


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 09, 2006, 09:29:32 am
Same here.

the first game will be played during one of coming evenings.

for most europeans that is between 21:00 and 23:00 CET (for fin its +1)
for north americans that'll be between    16:00 and 18:00 Eastern Standard Time

if that doesn't work we'll arrange something during the weekend.

wildcat and pimp, it might a good idea to try out my server, to see if lag is acceptable for you. send me a message on msn to arrange.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: [leke]LemonNinja on October 09, 2006, 10:56:58 am
there is no space left anymore, or is there? Im not on the running cause of my vacation....

If there is a place left, sign me up :)

eicaramba2@gmx.ch


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 09, 2006, 11:14:37 am
I added you to the wildcards.

The rest of the hosts could also post their gaming times, help very much. Remeber all of you to constantly follow this thread or your PM's since as you have seen, this tournament is progressing fast so you don't want to be left outside just because you didn't follow :-*


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on October 09, 2006, 02:41:35 pm
Hey Origin, since your the hoster for my group, Ill give you the information when I can play. Friday 9:00 (GMT 0) the earliest on Friday and I can play later if I know you are gonna host. Also, I can play anytime on Saturday 5 :00 (GMT 0) is the earliest. My GMT is -5. I cant really play any other day since im too busy with school and other stuff.
Thank you Cloud, that will really help me :)
I'll contact others and try to host games on saturday evening (GMT+2)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Duality on October 09, 2006, 02:54:21 pm
Same here.

the first game will be played during one of coming evenings.

for most europeans that is between 21:00 and 23:00 CET (for fin its +1)
for north americans that'll be between    16:00 and 18:00 Eastern Standard Time

if that doesn't work we'll arrange something during the weekend.

wildcat and pimp, it might a good idea to try out my server, to see if lag is acceptable for you. send me a message on msn to arrange.

man 22.00-24.00 my time ;/ could u on sum way make it to 21.00-23.00 finish time so euro it would be 20.00-22.00 coz i can hve problems playing from 22.00 forward but on weeks but weekends is other thing i try to do my best so i can play.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Kurt on October 09, 2006, 03:51:04 pm
Same here.

the first game will be played during one of coming evenings.

for most europeans that is between 21:00 and 23:00 CET (for fin its +1)
for north americans that'll be between    16:00 and 18:00 Eastern Standard Time

if that doesn't work we'll arrange something during the weekend.

wildcat and pimp, it might a good idea to try out my server, to see if lag is acceptable for you. send me a message on msn to arrange.
Isn't finland CET +2 ?


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Magni on October 09, 2006, 04:05:52 pm
Same here.

the first game will be played during one of coming evenings.

for most europeans that is between 21:00 and 23:00 CET (for fin its +1)
for north americans that'll be between    16:00 and 18:00 Eastern Standard Time

if that doesn't work we'll arrange something during the weekend.

wildcat and pimp, it might a good idea to try out my server, to see if lag is acceptable for you. send me a message on msn to arrange.
Isn't finland CET +2 ?
Yes it is.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Kamikazee on October 09, 2006, 04:19:30 pm
I wantto join..i can play at 17:00 o'clock to 20:00 o'clock in evry day


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 09, 2006, 11:57:05 pm
Same here.

the first game will be played during one of coming evenings.

for most europeans that is between 21:00 and 23:00 CET (for fin its +1)
for north americans that'll be between    16:00 and 18:00 Eastern Standard Time

if that doesn't work we'll arrange something during the weekend.

wildcat and pimp, it might a good idea to try out my server, to see if lag is acceptable for you. send me a message on msn to arrange.
Isn't finland CET +2 ?

my mistake then. CET + 1 for western, CET +2  for finland.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 10, 2006, 12:47:17 pm
Here's a helpful link.

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on October 10, 2006, 06:41:08 pm
Fierce, there seems to be a little trouble in Origin's group. I can only play on Friday and Saturday, while Shoju will not be here on Friday and Saturday since he is going somewhere. I can play on weekdays, but that is like at 9 pm my time, which basically everyone in Europe is sleeping. So the only time I can play with europeans is Friday or Saturday. Hopefully we will get this resolved soon :)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 10, 2006, 11:39:10 pm
What I suggest is that you see how many guys can make it on friday/saturday. If all the rest can make it when I say that ShoJu gets replaced with the wildcard player number one. It's harsh yes, but life is, and we can't put the whole tournament on hold just because one player is going elsewhere. Imagine if he takes a trip of 2 weeks... yeah.

So really all the rounds should be arranged by the possibilities of the majority. I hope you can work it out.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on October 11, 2006, 01:42:53 am
What I suggest is that you see how many guys can make it on friday/saturday. If all the rest can make it when I say that ShoJu gets replaced with the wildcard player number one. It's harsh yes, but life is, and we can't put the whole tournament on hold just because one player is going elsewhere. Imagine if he takes a trip of 2 weeks... yeah.

So really all the rounds should be arranged by the possibilities of the majority. I hope you can work it out.

Fierce, I can see where you are coming from but thats very unfair to ShoJu especially when Im the only player who cant play any other day. ShoJu cant only play 2 days. It will be more fair to kick me out of the tournament, then ShoJu, but since I do not want to be kicked out :P, I have come with a suggestion. We replace ShoJu with another member from another group who can play one of those days, and voila, problem is solved. Also, you can replace me, but I just love my group :P. Well, thats just my suggestion, I dont know if its the best one, but you can decide what course of action to take.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Kurt on October 11, 2006, 05:31:40 am
What I suggest is that you see how many guys can make it on friday/saturday. If all the rest can make it when I say that ShoJu gets replaced with the wildcard player number one. It's harsh yes, but life is, and we can't put the whole tournament on hold just because one player is going elsewhere. Imagine if he takes a trip of 2 weeks... yeah.

So really all the rounds should be arranged by the possibilities of the majority. I hope you can work it out.

Fierce, I can see where you are coming from but thats very unfair to ShoJu especially when Im the only player who cant play any other day. ShoJu cant only play 2 days. It will be more fair to kick me out of the tournament, then ShoJu, but since I do not want to be kicked out :P, I have come with a suggestion. We replace ShoJu with another member from another group who can play one of those days, and voila, problem is solved. Also, you can replace me, but I just love my group :P. Well, thats just my suggestion, I dont know if its the best one, but you can decide what course of action to take.
Boohoo, ShoJu is some random guy who might have quitted LX by now already.  ::)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 11, 2006, 11:44:05 am
Haha, buhbuh ;)

There's been some other cases like ShoJu, so yet again, arrange the date by the possibility of the majority. If one guy can't make it, we have a long list of replacements who want to play.

Anyway, comments on the level? Or you guys still haven't downloaded it? :D I need some feedback to see the level arrangements for next phases.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 11, 2006, 04:10:22 pm
I just tried it.
The walls GFX is very beautiful, but the background is a bit strange, and the level is way too big and way too much walls. There is not much big air, the level is good for defensive style players who would  prefer backstabbing and so on.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: *Gyogyi* on October 11, 2006, 04:26:53 pm
anyway seeing the nomber of the wildcald members, Dont u think its possibile to add 1-1 player to each groups?


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: AnubisBlessing on October 11, 2006, 04:38:35 pm


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Kurt on October 11, 2006, 04:43:30 pm
Same here.

the first game will be played during one of coming evenings.

for most europeans that is between 21:00 and 23:00 CET (for fin its +1)
for north americans that'll be between    16:00 and 18:00 Eastern Standard Time

if that doesn't work we'll arrange something during the weekend.

wildcat and pimp, it might a good idea to try out my server, to see if lag is acceptable for you. send me a message on msn to arrange.
Isn't finland CET +2 ?
Sorry then, thought that CET = GMT.

my mistake then. CET + 1 for western, CET +2  for finland.

Wrong. CET which is Sweden and all countries in the same timezone is GMT+1, Central European Time
EET, which is Finland, Estonia and countries in the same timezone is GMT+2.


Finland and Estonia is CET+1, just like Run said.




Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 11, 2006, 04:55:57 pm
quote problem ^^:
Quote
Sorry then, thought that CET = GMT.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on October 11, 2006, 09:23:09 pm


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 12, 2006, 01:12:09 pm
Well tell him to be, because it's ****y that you just sign to play a tournament and then disappear.

!IMPORTANT!
What I think that should make this work better is that we re-arrange the teams and make them again by the attendance of these playing times.
So, reply and tell what time you CAN PLAY! It doesn't matter if you can play on all of them. Just post it and we will arrange the groups according to who can play and when. Here's the times.

Saturday 14.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Sunday 15.10 - 18.00-> GMT
Monday 16.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Tuesday 17.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Wednesday 18.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Thursday 19.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Friday 20.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Saturday 21.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Sunday 22.10 - 18.00-> GMT

So, these are not "pick your favourite time", post the times you CAN PLAY. We'll assign the hosting according to that.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 12, 2006, 01:46:14 pm
Thursday 19.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Friday 20.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Saturday 21.10 - 19.00-> GMT
Sunday 22.10 - 18.00-> GMT

Lower time is also before the bigger time.

Anyway i can play most days but it should be ended before 20.00 GMT. and i have training some days 15.30 GMT - 17.30 GMT


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on October 12, 2006, 02:58:39 pm
how f*** can it be 19.10-19.00  ??? is the time going backvards or is it a period at 23 hours and 50 minutes? :P please tell me so i can answer


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on October 12, 2006, 03:33:24 pm
I can play after 18.30 GMT every day expect fridays and next saturday


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Wander on October 12, 2006, 04:10:17 pm


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on October 12, 2006, 04:14:53 pm
Days I can play :

Saturday 16:00 - 5:00-> GMT
Friday 21:00 - 5:00-> GMT


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Duality on October 12, 2006, 06:01:57 pm

Saturday 14.10 - 19.00-> GMT YES
Sunday 15.10 - 18.00-> GMT  YES atleast should
Monday 16.10 - 19.00-> GMT NO
Tuesday 17.10 - 19.00-> GMT NO
Wednesday 18.10 - 19.00-> GMT NO
Thursday 19.10 - 19.00-> GMT Maybe
Friday 20.10 - 19.00-> GMT  Maybe
Saturday 21.10 - 19.00-> GMT No
Sunday 22.10 - 18.00-> GMT YEs atleast should


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on October 12, 2006, 10:23:08 pm
Now that I have thought about it for a little while, I think ShoJu should be replaced by a wildcard player because he comes in here, and makes his first post on LXA wanting to join this tournament. Noone knows who he is, and hardly anyone has played with him. (ateast me). After all this, he disappears from LXA, and doesnt post what times he can make it.

Hans, maybe you are best friends with him, but I think if he registers within a tournament he should check reguraly about it.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 13, 2006, 12:00:54 am
how f*** can it be 19.10-19.00  ??? is the time going backvards or is it a period at 23 hours and 50 minutes? :P please tell me so i can answer
Duh :P

Thursday (day) 19.10 (date = 19.10.2006) - 19.00-> GMT (time, so from 7pm onwards. Kapiche?)

About replacing ShoJu:
I can not replace him yet, but if he doesn't show up soon then we'll have to do something.

PS:
Cloud, mind to post the dates of your days?


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on October 13, 2006, 02:50:52 pm


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on October 13, 2006, 03:04:25 pm
Saturday 14.10 - 17.00-> GMT
Sunday 15.10 - 17.00-> GMT
Monday 16.10 - 17.00-> GMT
Tuesday 17.10 - 17.00-> GMT
Wednesday 18.10 - 18.00-> GMT
Thursday 19.10 - 17.30-> GMT
Friday 20.10 - 17.00-> GMT
Saturday 21.10 - 17.00-> GMT
Sunday 22.10 - 17.00-> GMT

My parents dont want me to play longer than 20.00 (GMT) 22.00 (at home in sweden) because im only 13 and they want me to sleep and grow big  ;D

i hope this works and i will talk with ShoJu about this  :P


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: holyboy33 on October 13, 2006, 03:34:27 pm
ok ok there have been some issues with times for me and that match i can liek not play anytime this week week 41 but all the days next week week 42 so if it must be this week week 41 i quit the tournament sooooo when is it and who will be my opponent sammy can write 2 me on msn or u can write it in this forum bye and sry for the misshap and i have not quit playing lx guys im just hard 2 get in contact with. cya  8)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on October 13, 2006, 04:32:43 pm
PS:
Cloud, mind to post the dates of your days?

I already posted, when I can play (3rd last post on the 2nd page)..but I will post again.

Days I can play :

Saturday 16:00 - 5:00-> GMT
Friday 21:00 - 5:00-> GMT


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 13, 2006, 08:46:51 pm
The times doesn't seem to match between people


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Morby on October 14, 2006, 05:09:13 pm
Would be great if the players in my group just could send me available play times on PM!

I'm free every evening i guess


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Ahmed on October 14, 2006, 08:29:02 pm
pm sent!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on October 15, 2006, 02:14:47 pm
sent PM


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: AnubisBlessing on October 15, 2006, 02:29:03 pm
Saturday 14.10 - 19.00-> GMT - Could if I must, late now :P
Sunday 15.10 - 18.00-> GMT - Could if I must.
Monday 16.10 - 19.00-> GMT - Possible
Tuesday 17.10 - 19.00-> GMT - Possible
Wednesday 18.10 - 19.00-> GMT - Possible
Thursday 19.10 - 19.00-> GMT - Impossible
Friday 20.10 - 19.00-> GMT - Impossible
Saturday 21.10 - 19.00-> GMT - Yes
Sunday 22.10 - 18.00-> GMT - Yes


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on October 15, 2006, 04:49:15 pm
hmmm this will take some time  :-\
so the tournament wont be starting this week (think so)  :P


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 16, 2006, 09:57:51 am
Well this has been the problem of most torunaments that aren't duel taurnaments. It's hard to get five, or even four guys to play at the same time. I hope that now that we do know more about the playing times of the players we can make something actually happen.

Next weekend seems to be the most fortunate time to play, so I hope ALL of you can make it and we'd do as many games as possible. You guys have a week now to arrange and re-arrange your schedule, and I hope that if you don't have something TOTALLY uncancellabe, you'd take 20 minutes for LX and make this tourney progress. Thanks.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 16, 2006, 02:51:15 pm
I'm hone in 21/22 october and able to play.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Kurt on October 16, 2006, 05:25:08 pm
This weekend I won't be able to play, sorry.
Next weekend... I have no idea  ;D


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 20, 2006, 11:43:28 am
Alright boys, the weekend is approaching and I hope you're ready to do the shizzle :-*


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 21, 2006, 09:11:37 pm
first half of weekend passed and MileC is away on a trip so no games on milec group this weekend again..


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: AnubisBlessing on October 22, 2006, 01:14:08 pm
Run is also away this weekend, apparently. No Games will be reported from Run's group. I might be able to host for him depending on when you guys are ready to play.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on October 22, 2006, 01:44:04 pm
Well, since milec is away and kurt can't play either, my group won't play this weekend, I hope we can play next weekend...


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Absinthe on October 22, 2006, 01:47:52 pm
Eh, okay, next weekend seems to be fine.

Ow, Origin, isn't that signature a quote from my recent signature?  ;)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on October 22, 2006, 01:50:10 pm


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 22, 2006, 01:56:30 pm
Duh, Ok. These games could be better organized. Someone allways seems to be away.. :(


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 22, 2006, 07:45:50 pm
Well Tafka I've tried to organize this as good as I can, but it's also up to YOU guys.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 22, 2006, 09:51:29 pm
MileC told me that friday. I told OK, i'm on then but he wasn't asking me anything in friday. Just say that next friday 18.00 GMT there will be all servers and everyone must be there then. or some other day... else it gets too confusing..


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 27, 2006, 09:48:14 pm
This needs to get back alive again!!!! Cmon guys who registered, get active and play your freaking game!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on October 28, 2006, 10:08:16 am
This needs to get back alive again!!!! Cmon guys who registered, get active and play your freaking game!!!!!!!!!!
im playing whole days already :P
and this is stupid if noone can fight :P


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 28, 2006, 03:40:23 pm


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 28, 2006, 08:07:52 pm


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: *Gyogyi* on October 28, 2006, 08:23:39 pm
no it isnt :) I know it well since i m playing really much with Australians, and with NA players:)
Australians can play at 2 pm (GMT+1) and NA players can play as well in this time
thats the best for everyone, so i say this tourny could be organised the best beetwen 2 pm and 6 pm :)
just talk with the players, and who wont answer , just replace:)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Wander on October 28, 2006, 08:29:56 pm
We (origin's group) had set a date+time last week on friday, but some individuals didnt show up so it couldnt continue. (Surprisingly enough, there were no wildcard players online).
So we set another date+time, half an hour ago. And again, not everyone is here. It is getting pretty annoying like this.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2006, 08:34:34 pm
Here is a wildcard, but no Origin it seems.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on October 29, 2006, 12:45:41 am
I guess the main reason for no players is that maybe they don't check out this thread OR because the playing dates and times haven't been posted either :-[


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Gaston on October 29, 2006, 01:06:16 am
Don't worry, this is usually what happends when you need to rely on players that randomly sign up. Some of them will usually not show, and it'll stall the tournament. I thought it was a great idea, but there should be a way to make sure they'd be online for such a tournament when it takes place.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 29, 2006, 02:10:54 am
Don't worry, this is usually what happends when you need to rely on players that randomly sign up. Some of them will usually not show, and it'll stall the tournament. I thought it was a great idea, but there should be a way to make sure they'd be online for such a tournament when it takes place.

yep indeed.. some do want to participate, but only when it suits them. doesn't work with rounds of 5 players.. might be an idea to change it to 3 players, hosting being one of the 3. and maybe let em play best of 3.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on October 29, 2006, 02:42:26 am
We (origin's group) had set a date+time last week on friday, but some individuals didnt show up so it couldnt continue. (Surprisingly enough, there were no wildcard players online).
So we set another date+time, half an hour ago. And again, not everyone is here. It is getting pretty annoying like this.

I wanted to come, but just before I was about to go on, I got in a fight with my mother, we argued for 2 hours, and that kinda ruined my chance to play LX. Anyways, Ill try to come next time, but if I don't just replace me, if Im not online next weekend when we plan in.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on October 29, 2006, 11:20:52 am
I already sent pm's to my players of my group, but I'll tell new time here also:
So I'll be online today 9pm --> (GMT +2), so wildcards could also try to be online then if all players of my group won't show up


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: *Gyogyi* on October 29, 2006, 08:06:41 pm
if any team is ready and u  want to play, well if u wish to play with a wildcard player, then here i am, im on msn if im at home.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on October 29, 2006, 08:08:21 pm
MileC, give us a date!!!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on November 01, 2006, 08:42:27 pm
this dont work :S
soon im gonna quit this tournament :P


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on November 01, 2006, 09:00:48 pm
We should try to get together this weekend as well, if we can't, maybe we can change the groups around to make the players in the group closer to each.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on November 01, 2006, 09:23:44 pm
Ok, I'm able to host:
next saturday at 22:00 -> (GMT +2)
next sunday at 19:00 -> (GMT +2)

So my group: try to be online then, and wildcards also


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Kurt on November 03, 2006, 10:01:32 pm
Please no, what a loss that'd be!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on November 03, 2006, 10:10:58 pm
I can host one game if anyone else don't manage to do it.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on November 05, 2006, 01:15:54 pm
Since holyboy (Shoju) left, the first wildcard Leon replaces him right?

EDIT:
I'll try to host today and I hope lots of ppl comes online
I will be online somewhere around 21:00 (9pm) GMT +2


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Absinthe on November 05, 2006, 01:47:51 pm
Uh, when could MiLeC host? It's been some time already from the day this tourny was released and still no action what so ever. Maybe if Miles can't host, someone could replace him and tell us an ironproof date. Who can't/won't come is just out and replaced by a wildcard. I think that is the key to get this tournament under way. It can seem a bit harsh but it's time to bring out the big guns anyway  :P


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: MiLeC on November 05, 2006, 04:14:16 pm
Always when I have been msn I have been checking if all from our group are online, it has not happened even once. Well thats tru also that school work + gf is taking almost all my time, so I am pretty rarely even in msn..

But it has been on my mind.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Absinthe on November 05, 2006, 04:16:57 pm
Just tell an ironproof date and be there.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on November 05, 2006, 05:51:08 pm
MileC you could atleast try to arrange the games. Not just checks if all 5 are online at the same time, it happens rarely.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Absinthe on November 05, 2006, 06:07:16 pm
MileC you could atleast try to arrange the games. Not just checks if all 5 are online at the same time, it happens rarely.

That's what i've been telling to MiLeC  ;)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Wander on November 05, 2006, 09:26:14 pm
I'll try to host today and I hope lots of ppl comes online
I will be online somewhere around 21:00 (9pm) GMT +2

Im afraid i missed that.. :'(
 Did you play the round already?


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on November 06, 2006, 07:14:41 pm
I'll try to host today and I hope lots of ppl comes online
I will be online somewhere around 21:00 (9pm) GMT +2

Im afraid i missed that.. :'(
 Did you play the round already?
No we didn't, cause there were only 2 players online (including all wildcards)...

But I'm trying again next weekend, I'll tell the times later


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on November 06, 2006, 08:08:41 pm
i quit :-\ :'( :P
cya in another better tourney


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on November 09, 2006, 01:09:48 am
Last time Fierce posted on this thread was October 29th. :\

But anyways, Ill be home all weekend so we will play our games!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Ahmed on November 09, 2006, 01:28:43 am
i quit :-\ :'( :P
cya in another better tourney

hehe one of the reasons our (your former) group couldn't play was because of your bedtime being after I come home from school. Maybe this will make things work better ;) 


guess someone needs to fill in the spot ;)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Hatten on November 09, 2006, 09:09:20 am


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: RuNyoufool on November 09, 2006, 11:05:42 am
glad to help :D

please stop posting useless comments only to annoy other forum members. consider this your last warning before other actions will be taken.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on November 09, 2006, 11:11:59 am
I've been watching this thread don't worry :)
Well, as seen this really ain't progressing much. There hasn't been posted playing dates, and I haven't got any PM's from the hosts on the situation or anything else, so really this seems to be another blowout, like was the FB3 tourney also. People just don't seem to really have time, or then they just don't take anything very seriously or don't care. It's a shame since the list of the participants was very promising, and this new concept seemed to also attract attention. But really, if people don't carry the responsibility given, nothing will ever work.

So well, I have to reluctantly and sadly announce this tournament as dead.

I want to thank all you guys who showed interest in making things work. I really appreciate it. I won't mention names though... everybody can sincerely think if this is applies on his part or not.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: RuNyoufool on November 09, 2006, 11:59:19 am
sorry to say this, but your expectations have been too high IMO. i have added all folks to msn, but from the beginnning i had the idea that

1. mixing up NA and europe players makes it 3 times more difficult to arrange games.
2. getting 5 specific players in one server at the same time is very hard even without that.
3. having hosts that don't play at the same time means there have to be 6 people available. 

You can blame everyone for not being dedicated enough, but you could've known that this would be hard to accomplish, even when most of the players would have cooperated to their ability. It has been mentioned during the 'progress' of this tournament that having games of 3 players in a best of 3 round with different settings will be a better alternative.

Also, it's easy for you to say others didn't commit, when you didn't have to arrange a match yourself. you could have taken over a bit, and show that your concept could work (or find out how hard it is to arrange)..

Sorry if this all sounds pretty negative, i like the idea of the tourney a lot, but you seem to focus more on the looks of it then on the possibilities to realize such a tournament. Especially when you had a previous experience with setting up such a tourney.

I propose to set up a new tournament, similar to this, but with the changes mentioned above. Put Europeans and NA players together in first round. It could become an official annual LXA tournament, held around the christmas holidays if you are ok with that. 


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Absinthe on November 09, 2006, 01:57:50 pm
To be honest, I didn't see this coming.

I think Run has made some really good points why this tournament didn't work out and why was it so difficul to pull off but jesus, it's Fierce, his tournaments like never die.  :P Im really sorry to see this tournament go, nowdays there are only duel tournaments, im not saying they are not fun but there is no other kind anymore. Oh well, guess I have to deal with the idea that im not going to be the winner of the LieroX fusion tournament  :-X

Anyway, I know you gave it your best shot Fierce, cheers!  :o


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on November 09, 2006, 03:24:43 pm
I say my group still plays :D, even if it doesn't count. So on Friday or Saturday, if either 3 of any of me, milec, kurt, w.we and origin are online, then we will play. Or if it is Sunday, and there is 3 of us online. what do you think, Origin?


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Origin on November 09, 2006, 03:59:42 pm
Yeah, it's always nice to play with skilled players, even if it doesn't count in any tournament so I guess I'll try to be online on friday and saturday


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Wander on November 10, 2006, 03:04:07 pm
Good plan, i'll try to be there :)


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: . f i e r c e . . on November 10, 2006, 09:23:45 pm
Well, to reply on Run's post a little...

I knew it would be hard to make this work, I've been here long enough, but a guy can still have faith right? I thought that distributing the workload would help, so it's not only one guy taking care of everything. You made me sound like I'm washing my hands off this and only blaming the others, but from the very beginning I knew I just can't play and be so involved in LX how I used to be. Still, I wanted to give something for this community, and with this new concept I tried to do it like I did -- by looking for active and well-known players that would halp to make this. All in all what I wanted was an enjoyable tournament for YOU guys, since I wasn't even participating in it as a player. As Samara said, most of the tournaments nowdays are duel ones, and I understand it because it's a lot easier to make games when there's only few guys involved, but I wanted something different. Tried - failed. All the pre-work and concept and hype wasn't still enough to make guys show up or sacrifice a bit...

Most of the guys who know me from my early years know that I would do all of this alone if needed. All in all, that's what I did with the three Firebird tournaments. But now, things have changed, and simply... I just can't do this all by myself even if I would desperately want to. All in all, me is the person I trust more than anybody, but I didn't want to prevent you guys from having fun just because I can't do so many things I used to. Who wants to believe this good, who don't then don't -- but I really tried to do everything what depended on me... the level, concept, finding hosts, looking for ways to make this easier. If the fact that I didn't host, or even thought about doing so overrules all that and makes me a lazy guy with lack of interest to make things work, then fine, call me guily...

Anyway, good to see that you guys want to play and stuff. It makes me feel this wasn't all for nothing, even if your games wouldn't have anything to do with the tourney -- you're doing that in this thread :) I hope you have good games guys. If I can, I'll join you for sure.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Cloud on November 10, 2006, 09:43:51 pm
The only thing you didn't try was when we couldn't meet up, you should of re arranged the teams, and made it less random, by making people togheter that live near each other.

Also, I would of sacrificed some days to play LieroX, but I am only allowed to play on Saturday and Friday. I am allowed to play on weekdays, but only around 10 pm, when Europeans are sleeping. If I had a choise to play or go somewhere and I knew that, that was the day of the big game, I would of played.


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: Tafka on November 10, 2006, 09:53:23 pm
As I told, I could take 1 group and organize the game and do it!


Title: Re: LieroX Fusion Tournament
Post by: RuNyoufool on November 11, 2006, 02:58:09 am
as a reply to fierces ^^

maybe i shouldn't blame you so much, so forgive me for that, but i've also tried to make a suggestion to make it work, as to which till now only one person has replied (on msn).
The concept is still a nice one, and i'd love to have a special tournament every year on lxa, where new levels and mods that have potential will be played. This is also what the first LXA tournament was doing (since most people on lxa had never played those mods and levels before).

Also, i agree with cloud that some steps could have been taken to make it work better, although it's usually pretty hard to get a tournament back on track.
Besides that, i think you did a good job to try to manage the tournament, but it was doomed to fail from the beginning because of some things you didn't oversee well IMO. People just don't put everything aside to be available to play in a tournament, but they still tend to signup for a lot of tournaments.