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Title: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 08, 2006, 01:22:35 am
Here (http://lxalliance.net/smf/index.php/topic,3071.0.html)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Purplehaze on September 08, 2006, 01:55:51 am
its kick ass :)
only once when i tried to host, it crashed. that was the only problem. other than that, its extremely sexy. nice work DC


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Z01 on September 08, 2006, 01:58:40 am
I have it already but its great :)

I did notice FPS tends to go down a bit quicker but I dont care.
It rocks :)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Purplehaze on September 08, 2006, 03:00:59 am
hmm well i played it extensively, and i noticed the lag is ALOT worse. does lx pro make a connection to a euro server or something?


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Splinky on September 08, 2006, 03:11:09 am
Just one thing. In the final version it would be great if the screenshot files were saved as something smaller than a BMP. I dunno tho, it might alter the quality of the screenshot


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 08, 2006, 03:15:32 am
Indeed, there is a problem. But funny thing, for me and DC there is no lag while playing, for sure nothing worse than normal LX lag.
However, many players reported, that their FPS goes down. For me it SOMETIMES happens, but then it's enough if I start LX once again. And it's not really that often. I play on this LX version since over month.

About FPS - tick "Show FPS" in your options. If during game it's much worse than it should be (example: Instead of FPS: 84, you see all the time FPS: 65 or something similar), and you can't do anything about that (for example, I play with following settings TURNED OFF: Shadows, Particles, Filtered Level; and it works fine for me. Blood is not necessary if I use Health Bar, so I also decrease it from 100% to 0%), then go back to your previous LX, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE BACKUPPED. It doesn't happen to everyone, and nobody gave to DC any specified details about it, so it's hard for him to find the place, where this bug makes a mess.

Screenshots - yes, they will be saved as png files (quality will stay). Only, it will take time untill this change will be applied. It will be helpful, especially after resolution of LieroX will be changed 800x600, or even 1024x768. (there will be choice, which resolution you wish to play with. In Options - though, it will be only in Final Release. No sooner.).


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: X4VI3R on September 08, 2006, 03:17:58 am
Im sorry I'm a n00b, but where do i put the MSVCRTD.DLL doc?
I found this in the Read Me:

"Put in ( Windows/System32) folder.
However, if you have same file in your windows, do not replace it"

I dont know what this means, plz help?


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Gaston on September 08, 2006, 03:21:04 am
Just one question. I'm just curious, and no offence intended, but why use all this effort to made an improved version of LX when DC could be focusing all that work helping Rye? Do you have that little faith in LXE/ little wish to co-operate with Rye? Or are you gonna start competing with LXE?


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Splinky on September 08, 2006, 03:22:07 am


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 08, 2006, 03:30:35 am
Im sorry I'm a n00b, but where do i put the MSVCRTD.DLL doc?
I found this in the Read Me:

"Put in ( Windows/System32) folder.
However, if you have same file in your windows, do not replace it"

I dont know what this means, plz help?

Your operating system, which the most probably is one of the Windows, is installed on C: drive (the msot probably).

Find the following directory:
C:\Windows\system32\

Put in there MSVCRTD.DLL file. It is Debug Library helpful for reporting bugs. Final Release will be without this thingy.
If you copied it in there, and there didn't appear any window, then all is fine.
If you copied this file to this directory, and there popped out window with information, that you already have file with such name, and it will ask you, if you want to replace the existing file with new one, then DO NOT replace it. Click on "No".

Note, for experienced users:
If in system32 you will have MSVCRTD.DLL file, check the version. Compare it to version which is sent by DC. If in Windows\system32 you have OLDER version, then you can replace. If same or newer - you don't need it.



Hwoarang  -->
I personally don't have so called faith in Rye. Some players, even quite a big number, share this opinion with me. Dark Charlie wants to make something on his own, it's also great training for him. LXE might be totally different than LX. And there is HUGE possibility it will be just like that. Besides, we spent too much time in this community, to leave LX untouched. I hope I will feel proud after we finish it, and it will be worth of our effort.

Also, if people will like this what will come out, then Dark Charlie will make version of LX, which will be not compatibile to the current one anymore. However, he will reduce lag, increase FPS.. geenrally, do necessary changes in code,, WITHOUT changing the gameplay. At least, this is what we wish for. But first, we must see if people will like our creation.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: X4VI3R on September 08, 2006, 03:36:30 am
ty man, w00t Dark Charlie!


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Some Random Ock on September 08, 2006, 03:51:09 am
w00t indeed

my regards for dark charlie, hes doing very well.

heres a minor bug i just found, i was inspecting for new options and found that if you delete a profile the skin for the profile you just deleted will stay, but it will change it to the color of skin in the profile next in line.


ex:

profile1 "dark1" has skull skin which is purple
profile2 "light1" has chibi masta chief sin which is blue


if you delete light1, the chibi masta chief skin will still be in the preview box but its color will change to purple.




NOTE: it does NOT save the settings like that, its just a minor glitch that you might want to fix. no big deal.









Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Exigo on September 08, 2006, 08:03:56 am
i like it :), healthbar and all =) especially the ask to join thing !!!

it would be better if it was less laggier, which i know is hard to do

goodjob =)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Tafka on September 08, 2006, 09:25:11 am
I've been using for quite long now.
It's pretty usefull, easier. Nice work man.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]GrassNinja on September 08, 2006, 12:10:54 pm
i like the idea, its very cool, healthbar, settable etc.
but i can't host. if i press the host button after typing name etc. LieroX crashes.
and as i tryed it, i could only see one server, i dunno if its a bug, or if there werent any servers.

anyway, great work Dark Charlie!

EDIT: wow, winning a rifle game with comps is impossible XD


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Gaston on September 08, 2006, 01:23:38 pm


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Z01 on September 08, 2006, 01:31:02 pm
Yeah whatever, so far I like the first version of LXpro more then the first version of LXE :P

Il just keep checkin em both to see what I like more :)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Duality on September 08, 2006, 02:32:34 pm
wow =o that is awesome =)
im sure gonna use it for now on =P
and im seriously waiting for the release of the real version ;>


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Benn0 on September 08, 2006, 02:45:14 pm
well LXpro is really nice  ;D
and that ask to join function is great ;D
But I've been having slightly more crashes  :-\ but well the cause might very well be my comp  :o
anyways good joob DC  ;D


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Asrack on September 08, 2006, 02:47:17 pm
Well, considering your makinga blind statement. LXE might have some nice features, and I'm sorry Dark Charlie, but it might be better then LX Pro.  But for now, we have to wait and see.

LX Pro has a few things I think they should implement in LXE, if its as good as Rye predicts. As for now, LX Pro is quite nice. Including some of the features. If Rye and Dark Charlie would come to gether to talk, and see what they have done so far, I think they could create a keeper. :)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Swift on September 08, 2006, 03:17:10 pm
if i press the host button after typing name etc. LieroX crashes.
Yep when i was @ w.we his home today we tried it all out and the same problem overcame us too :-\


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Z01 on September 08, 2006, 03:29:19 pm
Yep when i was @ w.we his home today we tried it all out and the same problem overcame us too :-\

I had the same thing to, its when the "Buttons.png" thing isnt at the frontend folder or at least not where it should be.

Check it.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 08, 2006, 03:40:41 pm
i like the idea, its very cool, healthbar, settable etc.
but i can't host. if i press the host button after typing name etc. LieroX crashes.
and as i tryed it, i could only see one server, i dunno if its a bug, or if there werent any servers.

anyway, great work Dark Charlie!

EDIT: wow, winning a rifle game with comps is impossible XD

Have you copied the buttons? Put the buttons.png to the <LieroX folder>\Data\Frontend and overwrite existing file.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]GrassNinja on September 08, 2006, 04:30:37 pm
oh yeah, that was it.
thx, i just forget them ;)

and again: great work charlie!
and an idea yet: u could add something like a ''change all'' button to the weapon bannlist, that would make some things much easier ;)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Windrider on September 08, 2006, 05:17:30 pm
Thank you very much! This is something i've been waiting for a looong time.  :D


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Spectro on September 09, 2006, 12:59:03 am
I've crashed more often with LX Pro than Cloud, and if you've played with Cloud for more than 2 minutes you'd know what I mean =D It's impossible to play regularly with the lag addition as well... found myself teleporting through thin walls and shooting myself when I thought I was standing still. Just not quite my cup of tea just yet =]


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Trinity on September 09, 2006, 08:10:00 am
this is pretty good accept for the crashes. 4 time out of 5 time i goto host it crashes the 1 time i get in too the lobby bout 3 secs later a debug thing comes up and i have to abort it. any one help me out??? other than that i like it:D(y)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Origin on September 09, 2006, 10:33:38 am
Tested this yesterday...
I really like this! :) It crashed 0 times, usually when I go hosting lx crashes like 5 times
(And it's impossible to win bots in combo xD)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: mfmr on September 09, 2006, 10:49:14 am
Tested this yesterday...
I really like this! :) It crashed 0 times, usually when I go hosting lx crashes like 5 times
(And it's impossible to win bots in combo xD)
I won ;) ;D


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 09, 2006, 11:36:56 am
this is pretty good accept for the crashes. 4 time out of 5 time i goto host it crashes the 1 time i get in too the lobby bout 3 secs later a debug thing comes up and i have to abort it. any one help me out??? other than that i like it:D(y)

If you are 100% sure, that you put NEW buttons.png to your frontend folder, and replaced the existing file, then you removed HawkNL.dll file, and THEN renamed HawkNet.dll to HawkNL.dll (so after whole action, you have HawkNL.dll file, but you haven't HawkNet.dll anymore), then you are one of those who better should stick to standart LX as for now. As so far, no-one gave to DC any bug informations about instant crash, which would help in there (few guys just didn't follow instruction and that was the reason).


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Thor on September 09, 2006, 11:43:32 am
I tested this too. I have to say, this is awesome! Thank you RIP guys, I think RIP is very important clan in LX history ;) We should give something award to RIP, expecially to DarkCharlie and Raziel. Great job guys!


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Tafka on September 09, 2006, 01:07:01 pm
I tested this too. I have to say, this is awesome! Thank you RIP guys, I think RIP is very important clan in LX history ;) We should give something award to RIP, expecially to DarkCharlie and Raziel. Great job guys!

Yeah go make a happy picture in paint with "Thank you rip :)" this would be good.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]GrassNinja on September 09, 2006, 10:37:53 pm
I won ;) ;D
im sure that it was mortars, cuz win them in rifles is IMPOSSIBLE!

:P


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: mfmr on September 09, 2006, 10:55:38 pm
im sure that it was mortars, cuz win them in rifles is IMPOSSIBLE!

:P
I am sure it was in rifles ;)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]LemonNinja on September 09, 2006, 11:01:07 pm
It's not really impossible, i tried it today and he pwned me 0 - out.

It's beacuse they are too stupid to shoot through walls.
But if you would have a level without any objects just an empty room, the bot would pwn you 9 - out or something...

by the way, i really like this, I can't stop to thank DC for his great work he does for LX...


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Ruki on September 09, 2006, 11:31:51 pm
Umm it is clearly possible. I just beat bot 0-out. The ***** camped me 3 lives and it was hard but in the end i managed to camp it back and win.  ;)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 10, 2006, 12:21:00 am
Hehehe, you were asked to beat YOU vs 2 bots ;) Not only one.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Ruki on September 10, 2006, 04:34:57 am
Ok, here you have it. Ruki vs 2 bots - combo rifles... It was 5-out. Bots are n00bish since they wont move. They only camp and aim at you. They shoot with speed of light but still you can dodge it and kill them :P

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9601/botsku9.png


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Exigo on September 10, 2006, 07:08:02 am


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]LemonNinja on September 10, 2006, 11:30:41 am
Yeah, in LFR its hard to beat them, in fossil facility its possible.

I was just pwning one in rifles 5 - out  ;D


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: mfmr on September 10, 2006, 11:58:27 am
i won with them in lfr 2-out from 7 lives ;D (talkin' about dueling with bot)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Legend on September 10, 2006, 02:56:18 pm
Have you copied the buttons? Put the buttons.png to the <LieroX folder>\Data\Frontend and overwrite existing file.

When I done "buttons.png" , whole liero crashes when I launch it.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]LemonNinja on September 10, 2006, 02:59:36 pm
I can't open my Liero anymore  :D If i open it there appears a black screen and after 1 second it goes back to Desktop and nothing happens  :(

I lucky made a copy of the pack before i modified it  :D


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Legend on September 10, 2006, 03:03:45 pm
I can't open my Liero anymore  :D If i open it there appears a black screen and after 1 second it goes back to Desktop and nothing happens  :(

I lucky made a copy of the pack before i modified it  :D

If I add " buttons.png " liero doesnt work , if I let it be just " buttons " server doesnt work.
Help somebody please!


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]LemonNinja on September 10, 2006, 03:06:07 pm
It worked for 3 days, but then suddenly it didnt work...  ??? can some Raziel or DC help me?


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 10, 2006, 04:09:44 pm
When I done "buttons.png" , whole liero crashes when I launch it.
If I add " buttons.png " liero doesnt work , if I let it be just " buttons " server doesnt work.
Help somebody please!

If you did EVERYTHING like it is written in the instruction, so not only changed buttons, but also Lierox.exe file, and .dll file to system32 folder, and your LX doesn't work at all -  this smells weird.
If there appears some window with error message (there should), screen it and send picture to us. All you say is "Heeelp! Doesn't work!! <paniced>" Be more helpful, and describe in better way what exactly happens. Screen is black, your LX freezes, it goes back to windows and sends some bug message.. DESCRIBE it.


Lemon - try to replace all the necessary files once again. In Widnows/System32/ check version of MSVCRTD.DLL. Then compare it to version which is in our little pack. Make sure that your windows version is same or newer. If it is older, replace it with our file.

But if this all will not help at all, for now it's unknown why it happens. So remove this all, along with file in System32, and sign up on "Unstatisfied" list.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]LemonNinja on September 10, 2006, 04:49:29 pm
okay... I describe it better ;)

First, it worked all fine.

After launching it 10 times i couldnt close LieroX. I pressed on "Quit", then it made a bug sound and there were 2 cursors, the one the normal winows cursor, the other the LX cursor. I could only move the Windows cursor. Then I pressed windows button and tried to close it with Ctrl + Alt + Del. It sent me a "CC+ Windows bug message" or something... I can't send you a screen, because when i try to launch it now, Black Screen appears for 1 second, and then it crashes. The title "CC+ Windows Bug message" was all i can remember.

I also tried to replace the file. It said its the same file, and if i open LX now, same happens as before. Maybe i should delete my LX folder and re-downlaod it XD.



Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Krazi on September 10, 2006, 05:09:47 pm
OK... I love the new features, and I hope you can get all the bugs worked out soon...

It pretty much works fine, same lag and everything... The ONLY problem is when I host servers they always crash 1-5 minutes into game... but if that was fixed, LX Pro would rock


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 10, 2006, 05:34:27 pm
Okay

you were all right, there were some unfixed bugs when tried to host. It's already fixed and will be in the next release.

LemonNinja: Please, could you ZIP your cfg subdirectory in <LX> directory and send it to me? Add me on MSN or send it via mail: karel.petranek(at)tiscali.cz ( = both, email and msn)

Also FPS has been improved a bit, so it should decrease the "lag" some of you are expecting.

Expect the new release in few days (there are still some small things to fix)



Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 10, 2006, 05:40:35 pm
IMPORTANT:

Karel didn't mention it in his previous post. I already edited first post on the thread.
Hosts: DO NOT LEAVE your Welcome Message blank. Type in there anything. It should prevent at least half of the hosting problems.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Ahmed on September 10, 2006, 08:51:56 pm
when i host it works. when I try to set wepons for 100lt it crashes after a few 30sec on the weapons ban/allow list thing.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 11, 2006, 06:17:12 pm
oh yeah, that was it.
thx, i just forget them ;)

and again: great work charlie!
and an idea yet: u could add something like a ''change all'' button to the weapon bannlist, that would make some things much easier ;)

It's there. I was just lazy to redraw the button :D

About FPS, im doing my best, i hope it helps.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Krayonaise on September 12, 2006, 01:18:12 am
Words of Wisdom pouring down the fingertips from the bartman, heading your way - Heads up:

I've gone back to old liero. why?

I never had fps problems before, when ppl said "omg fps drop" i never could understand since i never had those problems with my computer. I can fire 5 baby nukes at once without and my fps is steady at 97

But with lx pro i saw for the first time deteriorating signs after only shooting 2 baby nukes, sucks.

The healthbar were nice, but as with lag they show the damage left with what my liero thinks i hit; meaning if i get a hit on some lagger it will show 0hp eventhough he is alive = sucks anyway. But its ok for players who want to estimate approximately how much one has left, and it works good with ppl who has ping under 70, so accurate to some extent.

Now if i had fps problems before i would keep this patch; but seemingly how it creates something i never had before i must choose to go back to old liero (since my comp settings obviously gives me an upper hand with never fps problems despite what weps are used ingame). Also i was bit thrown of gaurd with all fancy features when playing that cw with spade against aC, checking healthbars, monitoring fps, colored nametags, checking ping in server etc etc. Less distraction with old liero, but once fps is fixed i will so dload the new patch - untill then ill pass.

Liar! Those aren't words of wisdom......  First off, this is a TEST. Secondly, all those options u can turn off.

I rest my case.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Gaston on September 12, 2006, 01:27:58 am


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Krayonaise on September 12, 2006, 10:34:17 pm
Ahem..read. Healthbar= too annoying brat says.

Read carefully you must. Please. Pretty please.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Gaston on September 12, 2006, 10:51:17 pm
Yes I know you can turn off all those options if you want, but still he says he'll use LX Pro once fps problem is fixed. so was this just a case of you quoting the whole post, and not specifying what part you were referring to? Never claimed them to be words of wisdom btw, just that he provides a valid argument with the fps thingy.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Purplehaze on September 13, 2006, 01:04:45 am
i think the biggest problem with lx pro is the fps right now.. but if DC can get it back to normal (for the people that have problems with it) im sure everyone will download lx pro. i love the new features.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]GrassNinja on September 13, 2006, 01:44:10 pm
i've just noticed that LX Pro crashes, when u try to play a mod which is not in the pack.
i tried several mods which r not in the pack, and it crashes always, in Local and also in Netplay

oh and ye FPS drops hard with some weps, like baby nuke or sexy(naruto).

EDIT: OMG, my lieroX crashes always when i try to start a game!! :S


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Wander on September 13, 2006, 05:38:09 pm
Lierox crashes arent very weird, the old lx crashed sometimes too. But what just happened was abnormal. I joined a game with 8 ppl on morts. (lx pro isnt good with morts, the lag is very big). It lagged so hart that i had an FPS which i estimate at 1 frame per minute. I tried to go back to windows and shut lx down, but it didnt wotk. Alt+Tab brought me to a black screen , which lasted several minutes. I tried Ctrl+Alt+del but nothing happened. I tried it several times in a row, which should restart the pc, but still nothing happened.
All this time, the sound was going crazy (i heard the sound of an exploding mortar, which repeated itself like 3 times a second, the effect was very weird).

Eventually, i had to shut the pc down manually. When i restarted it, the programs which had been running when it crashed didnt work anymore (internet explorer, msn, lx pro). And the restart/turn off function didnt work either. I had to shut it down manually again.

I turned it on again a few minutes later, gave it a couple of minutes to figure out what it was doing, and started some programs again. Everything seems to work fine now, but i dont think i will use lx pro again untill the new release. I hope i have given enough info about this event? ;)


Btw, i have also noticed that the lower FPS that lx pro gives me, makes me hard to kill. When using it, i have been called a hacker multiple times.


If you guys want my advise, i would go and work together with Rye, use his code and install the super-sexy LXP features in the new LXE. That way you should be aible to build a very good game :D


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Z01 on September 13, 2006, 05:41:38 pm
Quote
Btw, i have also noticed that the lower FPS that lx pro gives me, makes me hard to kill. When using it, i have been called a hacker multiple times.

In mortars thats been old XD

And that crash Ive heard of, Wormi had it too, its very odd.
He got it when accidently starting 2 lieroX at the saem time :P


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Wander on September 13, 2006, 05:43:51 pm
I frequently start 2 liero's at the same time, but this time i had only one on.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Gaston on September 13, 2006, 05:45:28 pm
Unfortunatly they will probably not be co-operating with Rye. Which in my opinion is a shame, but it's DarkCharlie's decision...


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Tafka on September 13, 2006, 05:52:48 pm
it doesn't crash to me:O


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 13, 2006, 05:56:42 pm
I'm little bit curious now, what machines do people use, who have the most weird troubles. Maybe it works worse on much older PCs. On mine, DC's and generally - people who have pretty strong PCs, it usually works without any troubles. But still, LX is too simple game to have huge requriements - thats why it's only my curiousity.

Summing all the complaints up, looks like a pity, that so many of you encoutnered such big troubles. Though, you were supposed to be testers only. I had a trouble with FPS olny once. When someone put some 8-bit mod, and allowed all the weapons, so game was overspammed. My FPS indeed was only 1, or even 0, but Alt+Tab worked fine (with few secs of delay). So again - For me it works perfectly fine, and I'm glad of that. Early release was for two reasons - too many people knew about it, and wished to try it as also we needed to test it on everyone. This big test brought many results, and thanks to all who tried it and reported bugs, also sorry for annoying troubles which occured meanwhile.

Anyway, I guess people can stop for a while testing it. Currently I use version which is few steps ahead of this released, but DC will need few days more, probably, to make it stable for all current testers. If it will work better, we will try to test it on all who want that again. But I warn in advance, that you try it all on your own risk.

Unfortunatly they will probably not be co-operating with Rye. Which in my opinion is a shame, but it's DarkCharlie's decision...

Hwoarang - yuo are annoying. Rye Rye and Rye. Go kiss his ass, and be happy. No need to mention him all the time here telling us how better idea would be to cooperate with him. And stick your opinions... somewhere. Shameful is your idiotic will to see everyone under one project, IN MY OPINION.

Indeed, we will not co-operate. As mighty Q nicely assured us, future of LXE will be in his hands as co-co-co.. as an Assistant. So they don't need DC. Also, we had our own ideas, our own ways, our own imagination of this how LX should LOOK to be good, FOR US and those who also would share with us this point. We do not force anyone, we don't say it's the best chouice in the world. WE JUST DO SOMETHING ON OUR ****ING OWN. What's your trouble? Afraid we will split community? Yeah sure, if LXE will be encoded in amazing way, and all the troubles will be fixed, then what's going on? All will switch to LXE. Untill then, shut up about spliting anything and support Rye quietly. Thanks!


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Ruki on September 13, 2006, 05:57:45 pm
It is so weird that it works for me identically as old...


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Nico on September 13, 2006, 06:14:27 pm
I got a problem with it.
I cant write in the lobby.
The game freezes for like 1-5 sek and then I can write for 1 sek and then it freezes again.
But then ingame its no problem.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Gaston on September 13, 2006, 06:33:43 pm


Hwoarang - yuo are annoying. Rye Rye and Rye. Go kiss his ass, and be happy. No need to mention him all the time here telling us how better idea would be to cooperate with him. And stick your opinions... somewhere. Shameful is your idiotic will to see everyone under one project, IN MY OPINION.

Indeed, we will not co-operate. As mighty Q nicely assured us, future of LXE will be in his hands as co-co-co.. as an Assistant. So they don't need DC. Also, we had our own ideas, our own ways, our own imagination of this how LX should LOOK to be good, FOR US and those who also would share with us this point. We do not force anyone, we don't say it's the best chouice in the world. WE JUST DO SOMETHING ON OUR ****ING OWN. What's your trouble? Afraid we will split community? Yeah sure, if LXE will be encoded in amazing way, and all the troubles will be fixed, then what's going on? All will switch to LXE. Untill then, shut up about spliting anything and support Rye quietly. Thanks!
Dude lighten up. I'm not saying rye's version is gonna be better, I was just fishing for an answer from DC himself on why he wants to do this alone. Nothing more.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Tafka on September 13, 2006, 06:53:50 pm
well, i would wish LX would look better.
It looks very crapy right now :P

Raziel, you are good with graphics
Do some work with DC together and make everything look better???


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Z01 on September 13, 2006, 07:08:35 pm
well, i would wish LX would look better.
It looks very crapy right now :P

Raziel, you are good with graphics
Do some work with DC together and make everything look better???

Like what?

Write the code so it supporst higher resolution? XD
Raziels kickass graphics alone wont do it :P


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 13, 2006, 07:12:53 pm
Graphics will be the last thing to do. Currently I'm lil too busy with exams, but when they are done, I will go back to my project which already is in progress.
My point is to make this game look like designed by proffesionalists, so YellowBart will feel like an idiot with his ugly flash advertise. Resolution will be modified to 800x600, maybe even to 1024x768. Of course old 640x480 also will be available (possibilty to choose will be in options), but each resoltuion will need whole GUI per one res. It will take time.

To be clear, it will be not modified frontend, it will be whole new interface. Well, you will see, but much later.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Wander on September 13, 2006, 07:16:26 pm
I'm little bit curious now, what machines do people use, who have the most weird troubles. Maybe it works worse on much older PCs. On mine, DC's and generally - people who have pretty strong PCs, it usually works without any troubles.
My pc is not very old, but indeed very very weak. Thats also the reason i always lag in the old lx too. :(

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But still, LX is too simple game to have huge requriements - thats why it's only my curiousity.
I agree, and that is the main reason why i play lx and not some other game. I have noticed that "lxpro.exe" is about 4x as big as the normal version, i think its why my pc has so much more trouble with it.

Success with improving it though guys, cause i love the new features :)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Tafka on September 13, 2006, 07:29:12 pm
Graphics will be the last thing to do. Currently I'm lil too busy with exams, but when they are done, I will go back to my project which already is in progress.
My point is to make this game look like designed by proffesionalists, so YellowBart will feel like an idiot with his ugly flash advertise. Resolution will be modified to 800x600, maybe even to 1024x768. Of course old 640x480 also will be available (possibilty to choose will be in options), but each resoltuion will need whole GUI per one res. It will take time.

To be clear, it will be not modified frontend, it will be whole new interface. Well, you will see, but much later.

Thats what i meant, a new interface.
Like redesign lobby. The big message box looks ugly, players under each other looks ugly. small list or smth would be better. like everything :P
And it needs to be recoded in source too. No other way


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 13, 2006, 08:29:59 pm
For Hwoarang:
No, I will not join Rye (at least not for now). The rest said my "right hand" :D mr. Raziel quite clear i think.

FPS problems:
I'm working on LX every day and every day i take one hour of work in which i'm only working on better FPS. I hope that the final release will be faster than .56. I apologize to all who have these problems. Just switch back to .56 till it's solved.

Game freezes sometimes (as W.we said):
It happened to me twice. I still don't know where's the point (mainly because i can't reproduce it :( ) but be sure that it won't be in the final release.

File size:
Every new feature takes place. Also this is a debug release which means no optimizations for file size and speed.

About LXE:
Yes, his version is probably gonna be better. Sorry, i must say it, but Jason's code is crappy. Safety almost none and the code is really wasting the CPU and memory. So Rye's "from scratch recoded" version will be better. However, no programmer can create a program without bugs. The current LX bugs will be fixed but there will be new that Rye will make and it will long some time till it's stable.



Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Tafka on September 13, 2006, 08:53:20 pm
good if there are less
the main bugs are the errors and crash.
Others are smaller .
Good to see you are working hard. Try to improve it :P good luck


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Krayonaise on September 13, 2006, 11:38:42 pm
ROFL! Don't tell me you guys were blaming the fps when you yourselves have crapass RAM... But then, i guess the versions Razzy distributed before the release were OBVIOUSLY much better since all 10 ppl (around 10) that got it have theirs work near-perfectly.

The statements above were about LX crashes.

Ah Hoerung, i just love you too much.



Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Wander on September 14, 2006, 07:13:56 pm
This hapened when i wanted to duel a bot in local play. All the other times i have done that, it worked just fine.

(the games themselves didnt, those *****es are too fast for me)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Swift on September 14, 2006, 07:42:24 pm
I also have problems with closing LXP it just dont react when i click "yes" my LieroX freezes. And after some tabbing out and stuff i get the same screen as W.we


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: [leke]GrassNinja on September 14, 2006, 08:01:35 pm


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Wander on September 14, 2006, 08:35:24 pm
I cant quote it for you guys, but they have asked us to screen those windows and show them to them. It contains info about the bug so that DC can fix it :)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Luzo on September 16, 2006, 12:36:58 pm
I can't host with LX Pro, keeps crashing. And I do insert a welcome message :s


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 16, 2006, 02:40:53 pm
Sorry, just try another message  ;D  All the welcome message problems are fixed and hosting doesnt make troules anymore. Expect the new release today or tomorrow.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Read CAREFULLY - only a preview edition.
Post by: Luzo on September 16, 2006, 02:47:28 pm
I tried 'Welcome to my server' and 'bleh' none of them worked. Good to hear it's fixed though.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Raziel on September 17, 2006, 09:39:49 pm
Read edit to first post - those who are interested.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: [leke]GrassNinja on September 18, 2006, 12:57:29 pm
i tried to join Z01 server to test something, with new LXPro, but i couldnt even join withut crashing :S

hosting worked alone, but noone was online yet, so i just know that from one server.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: RuNyoufool on September 18, 2006, 01:18:10 pm
I applaud this effort to improve the current LX and those are a bunch of great features Dark Charlie added. Still, it's a shame that all his work will be lost the moment the next LX release becomes the standard (unless DC is willing to re-implement all these features/hacks into new LXE versions). The release of two new different branches of old lx will mean that the community will be scattered even more (as is allready the case with different communities, different resource sites, etc).

I just don't really understand why you didn't join forces with Rye, who seems to be really open to it. Yes, i know you guys hate pretty much everything that comes from GU, but Rye is quite independant, also co-operating on the LXR site with his devlog.

So, although still a nice initiative, this seems to be a very impulsive action, without much thought behind it. I can't imagine that when several tatlented developers all start making their own versions, this will ultimately benefit the LX community as a whole. Still, your argumentation might be that it's only build for RIP's own use, and you don't care anyway, which is probably the case, but i'm just a bit disappointed that so much time and talent seems to be wasted (correct me if any assumptions are not right).

For now, these are great additions, and i'm certainly planning to use this version since it's compatible with 0.56. In the future, i hope DC will be able to work together with Rye, and merge everything to a great new LX.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Adam on September 18, 2006, 02:13:04 pm
Run, you have some good points there, but you didnt quite catch one thing. LXE will be something totally new (as I see it), with all new concepts and such. For example, im not interested. I like exactly this feel to the game which is in 0.56. If I would like to change sth, it would be only the details, not the whole image/engine/whatever. I guess (as I havent really discussed it) that the other RIP guys have the same feeling. Besides, the best thing about LXP (IMO) is that its fully compatible with the basic 0.56. So, everyone can choose exactly this version that suits him best, and still play with everyone else. And this means that there any more scattering is prevented.

Btw, why do you think all this will be lost when LXE is realeased? The question could also be: Wont the whole work of LXE be lost? Because, Im quite sure that a lot of people will prefer 0.56 with LXP add-ons rather than the whole new LXE.

Btw, the whole LXE project is mostly based on the "will" word. LXP is rather based on the "is" word. And that makes a huge difference (Especially when we read from Qs post that he "will" learn the scrypt language and "will" try to help Rye in this project).


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Kurt on September 18, 2006, 04:02:20 pm
Although these updates are nice, LXE will probably have one thing that LXP doesn't. Stable FPS.
And that's more important than any other improvement in my opinion.
Yep, I guess you got my point, even this version drops FPS  :(
For example comboing 5 baby nukes took my FPS to utopic numbers like 9...7....6 etc


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Gaston on September 18, 2006, 04:16:52 pm
Run, you have some good points there, but you didnt quite catch one thing. LXE will be something totally new (as I see it), with all new concepts and such. For example, im not interested. I like exactly this feel to the game which is in 0.56. If I would like to change sth, it would be only the details, not the whole image/engine/whatever. I guess (as I havent really discussed it) that the other RIP guys have the same feeling. Besides, the best thing about LXP (IMO) is that its fully compatible with the basic 0.56. So, everyone can choose exactly this version that suits him best, and still play with everyone else. And this means that there any more scattering is prevented.

Btw, why do you think all this will be lost when LXE is realeased? The question could also be: Wont the whole work of LXE be lost? Because, Im quite sure that a lot of people will prefer 0.56 with LXP add-ons rather than the whole new LXE.

Btw, the whole LXE project is mostly based on the "will" word. LXP is rather based on the "is" word. And that makes a huge difference (Especially when we read from Qs post that he "will" learn the scrypt language and "will" try to help Rye in this project).

I'm not guaranteeing anything, but according to Rye, this new LXE wont be something entirely new. LXE will do exactly what the old LX did only with better coding, and the possibility to make even more versatile weapons and levels. all the mods and levels that are now, will remain the same, so you will have no trouble playing what's old and dear to you guys. It just got more opportunities for modding and levelmaking, plus fixed crashes and fixed network code.

well of course mods and levels will develop over time if everything goes as planned, with better and more inventive weapons than what are currently now in different new mods, but I seriously fail to see anything bad about that. The old mods and levels will still be available to play in a stable code and stuff. If things goes as planned. And yes i belive that if to not be a big if, I think of it as rather a when as in in a month or three when the new version is made public. Sorry if this offended any of you, or made you feel like I'm dumb or something, but frankly I don't care about that. Al I care about is that eventually things will end up with wasted talent (either DC and the RIP gang, or Rye's), which is a shame in my honest opinion


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Adam on September 18, 2006, 04:31:54 pm
Hwoarang, I really dont see anything, that could offend anyone in your post. I once explained to Run how "offensive" one has to be to really "offend" someone, so i see you also could need a hand in estimating that ;D

Anyways, as new i meant not compatible with anything to date. To play it on-line, you have to download everything from scratch. With LXP., it doesnt matter which version you play.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: [leke]LemonNinja on September 18, 2006, 07:25:17 pm
Cark Charlie, I finally got this screen with C++ bug message :P hope it will help.

This appears when I try to close my LX Pro after playing.

(http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8500/lxpropt9.png) (http://imageshack.us)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: RuNyoufool on September 18, 2006, 09:32:20 pm
Run, you have some good points there, but you didnt quite catch one thing. LXE will be something totally new (as I see it), with all new concepts and such. For example, im not interested. I like exactly this feel to the game which is in 0.56. If I would like to change sth, it would be only the details, not the whole image/engine/whatever. I guess (as I havent really discussed it) that the other RIP guys have the same feeling. Besides, the best thing about LXP (IMO) is that its fully compatible with the basic 0.56. So, everyone can choose exactly this version that suits him best, and still play with everyone else. And this means that there any more scattering is prevented.

Rye is rebuilding the engine with a very good reason. The current code is just not good enough to keep building upon, and fortunately he foresees that every quick feature that will be build on top of this code base will have to be hacked into it, meaning that you create hacks on already badly structured code. This means that at a certain moment the whole game will collapse under dozens of unfixable bugs. fixing one bug will create 10 others because you have no idea what' s going on inside anymore. 

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Btw, why do you think all this will be lost when LXE is realeased? The question could also be: Wont the whole work of LXE be lost? Because, Im quite sure that a lot of people will prefer 0.56 with LXP add-ons rather than the whole new LXE.

So what i'm talking about is long term obviously. Also, all new players will be presented with the version that is put on the official lx site, and we both know that that will very likely be LXE. The old community is very small, so this game very much depends on new blood.

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Btw, the whole LXE project is mostly based on the "will" word. LXP is rather based on the "is" word. And that makes a huge difference (Especially when we read from Qs post that he "will" learn the scrypt language and "will" try to help Rye in this project).

i have to give you guys credit here, since RIP has always been able to deliver quality stuff to the community.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Purplehaze on September 19, 2006, 03:25:25 am
just here to give feedback on the second version. i got the same message as lemonninja and had to hit "retry" (the middle button) to get out of liero.
also, i dont see a difference in how fast my fps drops. (its still pretty bad)

i like the suicide feature and the txt feature. hopefully you can figure out the fps problem soon and maybe reduce the packets that are sent and recieved


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Trinity on September 19, 2006, 12:06:02 pm
well with that msg c++ i used to get it in 1st trial but not in 2nd.lol
i can host again thanks to asrack:D  i just had to add bottons.lol

I think this is a major step of liero xtreme. Adding a health bar is good but not always accurate but cant help lag:p still like the idea though.

Changin your welcome msg while your actually hosting is great and changing room names:D

Adding a favourite list is good specially when GU is back up and running with 20 servers listed and u cant find the one u want and before u know it is too late cause they have started alrdy. This Favourite list is good.

Ive noticed that FPS dropped more often in first test but i seem to have no problem with that anymore.

The bots. jeez wat good practise to get your skills up. mw1.0 its easy but rifles jeez. its like auto aim.lol Well hopefully will get out shooting aimin skills up:D

Being able to check evry ones ping if host if great. Dont have to find out whos laggin why lookin at em on screen just press tab and check there ping:D and the easy way to suicide "type suicide" in console and kicking people by just using 3 characters if good as. Now u dont get killed as easy while tryin to type someones name in the console:)

So farwith the 2nd version of Lx Pro i find no errors. i havnt crashed once with it. (only dloaded it today though.lol) but so far so good.

would like to congrats RIP for producing this. espiacally Dark Charlie and Raz.. look forward for any other projects u might be making:D


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 19, 2006, 03:16:25 pm
Just a little note: Error loading mod bug shouldn't happen anymore. If it still happens, please let me know, thanks :)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Tafka on September 20, 2006, 05:37:49 pm
It crashes for me always.
First - yesterday when i tried to join Morbids server i crashed always.
Today - i came home and i tried to open LX but it crashes 100% of the times.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Cloud on September 20, 2006, 06:37:36 pm
I haven't tested this version of LXPro, but for the health bar, is it possible to show exaclty how much health your opponent has? For example, can you make it to show the heatlh your opponent has exactly, not show how much he should have on your screen. So it mimics what his health is, so even thought you think you should of killed him, it actually says the real health.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Swift on September 20, 2006, 06:41:30 pm
Nope, i mean i dont think so. For the pro's its nice thing to have, but for the n00bs its something more to whine about. ::)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Gaston on September 20, 2006, 06:50:37 pm
I would be very surprised if it did. And if it did, DC would have to make changes in the code that would most likely make it incompatible with 0.56.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: [leke]LemonNinja on September 20, 2006, 07:12:26 pm
The same thing like with the first Test Edition happened to me today - I can't open LX Pro anymore :S


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: [leke]GrassNinja on September 20, 2006, 08:00:31 pm
i dont use it anymore, i will still thest the new releases, but i prefer lagfree playing than some cool extra-stuff.

but its still great work from u, keep it up :)


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Wander on September 20, 2006, 08:43:46 pm
i dont use it anymore, i will still thest the new releases, but i prefer lagfree playing than some cool extra-stuff.
Me too.


But im here to report a bug. A few days ago i was testing it, everything worked fine until this happened:
For some reason (cant remember what), i went to windows while i was in lobby, to return to lx later. But when i returned, i couldnt type in the lobby anymore. When i pressed the type bar nothing happened, and ofcourse simply typing without pressing the typebar didnt work either.
On a certain moment the host started and i could type again. Thought it would be over after the game, but it wasnt. Whn we went back to lobby, i again couldnt type :-\

This was a pretty big problem, because the host switched to a map i didnt have and i timed when he started. He re-opened for me, i re-joined and the problem was still there. Eventually i didnt get to him and they just played without me :-[


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Kurt on September 20, 2006, 08:56:01 pm
This was a pretty big problem, because the host switched to a map i didnt have and i timed when he started. He re-opened for me, i re-joined and the problem was still there. Eventually i didnt get to him and they just played without me :-[
Sorry  :(


Title: Re: LX Professional. Second release.
Post by: Gullveig on September 20, 2006, 09:00:55 pm
There is some bugs here and there. but.. but.. I like the version and I will keep it.
Good job [RIP]!


Title: Re: LX Professional. Third update.
Post by: Raziel on September 20, 2006, 10:24:26 pm
The only bug which has occured to me, was trouble with joining to few hosts, like Morby.
Now it should work fine.

Fixed:

Lobby being slow with more connected players
FPS is a bit better
Joining the server crash fixed
Popup-menu fixed

Scroll down the first post ont he thread, or download it from here:

>>TEST<< (http://www.usel.se/raziel/files/LXPro(test3).zip)

Those who are using older version, replace only LieroX.exe file.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Third update.
Post by: Z01 on September 20, 2006, 11:07:42 pm
w00t I can paly with morb again now!!


Title: Re: LX Professional. Third update.
Post by: Purplehaze on September 21, 2006, 01:10:23 am

Fixed:

Lobby being slow with more connected players
FPS is a bit better
Joining the server crash fixed
Popup-menu fixed


how much is a bit?


Title: Re: LX Professional. Third update.
Post by: Leon on September 21, 2006, 01:15:16 am
how much is a bit?

actually the fps did go up a bit for me:P
from the second edit i had 10 fps (XD), now i have 45 (still sucks for me, but my computer sucks anywayXD)



Title: Re: LX Professional. Third update.
Post by: AnubisBlessing on September 21, 2006, 08:52:12 am
how much is a bit?

What a silly question to ask. Go find out yourself.


Title: Re: LX Professional. Third update.
Post by: Purplehaze on September 22, 2006, 01:05:41 am
how much is a bit?

What a silly question to ask. Go find out yourself.
ive already downloaded and deleted it twice =/
i find it easier just to ask now


Title: Re: LX Professional. Third update.
Post by: Krayonaise on September 24, 2006, 05:32:32 am
just assume it's a lot because DC made it... DUH!

DC is my hero :-*


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 24, 2006, 07:48:52 pm
Another update.
Dark Charlie increased FPS, so now it should be back to normal. Also, projectile simulations are way faster, and shouldn't decrease FPS that much as orginal LX.

Changes:
FPS fixed
unstuck command fixed (again)
added possibility to mute a player (muteid, mute, unmuteid, unmute commands in console)
ping not counted properly in test3 fixed
projectiles showing only in black sometimes fixed



We tested it today on the most stupid mods, like 8-bit or Modernwarfare, with the most spammy weapons. When level was terribly spammed, FPS dropped down to 35 and this was the limit on my PC - no lower. But it still was playable. So drastic FPS decrease was only for second or two, then it came back to normal.
Liero 1.0 mod with 0% loading time and Big nukes on, FPS of course went down to 5, but hey.. what an idiot will play like that.

We hope it will work ebtter on weaker PCs right now.

Download:

>>TEST<< (http://www.usel.se/raziel/files/LXPro(test4)(1).zip)

People who use previous version - replace only Lierox.exe file.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Point-Guard on September 24, 2006, 07:51:09 pm
Finally a update, i will download it now


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 24, 2006, 07:55:52 pm
No offense dude, but you posted 3 minutes after my reply. Meanwhile I had to update first post with Link to current version, what gives you around 2 minutes, when you had to download it | unpack | replace file | go to LX and check out | go back and find reply button on this thread | and write message. I just watched X-men, and there were guys who could do that all... but you know, fairy tales are for kids. Anyway, keep up spamming - you are doing great.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Kurt on September 24, 2006, 08:19:43 pm
FPS is still UNSTABLE


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 24, 2006, 08:34:00 pm
FPS is still UNSTABLE

How much?  ;)


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Kurt on September 24, 2006, 08:45:20 pm
FPS is still UNSTABLE

How much?  ;)
The 82-84 jumps, as usual in previous versions  ???


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Z01 on September 24, 2006, 08:48:23 pm
Yay for the new unstuck, Im gonna try that now XD

In the last version I just got more stuck.
I ended up in the middle of the rock thats in the middle of Jukkedome XD

Great fun for everyone :D


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 24, 2006, 08:50:07 pm


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Purplehaze on September 24, 2006, 08:55:17 pm
do you know how many test versions there will be until the final release?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Raziel on September 24, 2006, 08:57:18 pm
Untill most fo the testers will be happy.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 24, 2006, 08:58:18 pm


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Asrack on September 24, 2006, 09:00:36 pm
It crshes everytime I try to host. :)


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Purplehaze on September 24, 2006, 09:04:06 pm
Untill most fo the testers will be happy.
the only problem that keeps coming back is the fps, it seems. i just tried the 4th version, and although the fps has improved, its still not up to par with the original liero. (for me at least).
i think every tester will be happy when the fps is solved.

All together, i really like LXpro, and at this point i think that lXpro is better than LXE.

Todo list is almost done. However, the hardest thigs left. Can't guess now. I will do my best, i promisse  :D

The hardest things are usually the best. sounds like something good :D:D keep up the good work!


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 24, 2006, 09:05:07 pm
Asrack, come to MSN :P


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Ahmed on September 25, 2006, 04:44:48 am
I got this error on the fourth edition. happend in the middle of the game :S
2 times now it's happend.

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3243/errorlxpro4zc3.png)


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Origin on September 26, 2006, 09:20:33 am
Suggestion:
When you use /me command, it could be some different color than normal chatting. That would make it more special...
Dunno what others think but I think it would be better :P


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on September 26, 2006, 05:47:23 pm
Suggestion:
When you use /me command, it could be some different color than normal chatting. That would make it more special...
Dunno what others think but I think it would be better :P

Would, but not possible :P


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Origin on September 30, 2006, 10:21:42 pm
Suggestion:
When you use /me command, it could be some different color than normal chatting. That would make it more special...
Dunno what others think but I think it would be better :P

Would, but not possible :P
It isn't? :O
nvm then :P


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on October 02, 2006, 08:23:31 pm
Suggestion:
When you use /me command, it could be some different color than normal chatting. That would make it more special...
Dunno what others think but I think it would be better :P

Would, but not possible :P
It isn't? :O
nvm then :P

I would have to upgrade the protocol and lose the compatibility with 0.56b.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Z01 on October 02, 2006, 08:37:49 pm
Hey charles, my LxPro still crashes when I try to join certains servers, like Asracks :P
And there was something else too I forgot, so dont mind that.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Indignation on October 02, 2006, 08:46:34 pm
Is there anyway to make it so the scroll bar doesn't go back up when you try to select a server that you have to scroll down to see? Also, Some servers I try to join say that I need protocol 9 to enter. Anyway to fix this?

Also I have a suggestion =o Is there anyway to have a preset of weapons that we can choose based on mods and maybe even loading times? It would be awesome if it already had the weapons chosen for us everytime we play a different mod.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Tafka on October 02, 2006, 09:03:29 pm
I suggested the second one already  :P

but when could 5th version be released?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Purplehaze on October 03, 2006, 01:37:05 am
protocol 9 means its lxe (enhanced). its not compatable with .56. nor will it be


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on October 03, 2006, 04:11:01 pm
Is there anyway to make it so the scroll bar doesn't go back up when you try to select a server that you have to scroll down to see?
Yes, it will be fixed in 5th release.

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Also I have a suggestion =o Is there anyway to have a preset of weapons that we can choose based on mods and maybe even loading times? It would be awesome if it already had the weapons chosen for us everytime we play a different mod.

Already done, will be in the 5th release.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Ruki on October 03, 2006, 05:57:24 pm
My MSN wont log in so i'll tell here: download missing level/mod funtion would be great  ;)


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on October 03, 2006, 06:06:32 pm


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Tafka on October 03, 2006, 06:08:56 pm
There could be option: Do you want to download this level
Yes/No


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on October 04, 2006, 06:45:22 pm
There could be option: Do you want to download this level
Yes/No

Quote
If you force 0.56b to send the level/mod, no problem then

I meant it's not possible  :P


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Indignation on October 07, 2006, 10:26:49 pm
Also, will the 5th edition fix the ping not updating bug?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Swift on October 08, 2006, 01:24:15 am
Hey wouldn't it be nice that LieroX includes something like a healthstripting counter? On that you can see how much health you **** away from your opponents in one game, because its always anoying if you have games when other people take your kills and other situations.

I don't ask to make it for LXP, i dont think its possible but just a suggestion ;)


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 08, 2006, 03:30:38 am
Hey wouldn't it be nice that LieroX includes something like a healthstripting counter? On that you can see how much health you **** away from your opponents in one game, because its always anoying if you have games when other people take your kills and other situations.

I don't ask to make it for LXP, i dont think its possible but just a suggestion ;)

exactly something i was recently thinking about. Show next to the kills of someone also the 'real kills' which would be total damage counted in pieces of 100hp. In this way you get a better view of performances, especially in rifle games.

Anther feature i'd like to request (rather easy to implement, i presume):
make is possible to define custom ban/kick messages. A simple textfile would do. if textfile is not present, just ban/kick without message to choose from.

Possible options could be:
annoying behaviour
obscene language
camping
etc..


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on October 10, 2006, 04:19:12 pm
Hey wouldn't it be nice that LieroX includes something like a healthstripting counter? On that you can see how much health you **** away from your opponents in one game, because its always anoying if you have games when other people take your kills and other situations.

I don't ask to make it for LXP, i dont think its possible but just a suggestion ;)

It's possible to show, how many "real" kills you have. However, because of lag and other things the health is not synchronized between clients, so it would be information only for you. I can add how many kills YOU would have on YOUR screen.

Quote from: Dusk
Also, will the 5th edition fix the ping not updating bug?

Yes, it will  ;)

Quote from: RuNyoufool
make is possible to define custom ban/kick messages. A simple textfile would do. if textfile is not present, just ban/kick without message to choose from.

I've already created a textfile where you can change/disable the network texts. I will also add something like the "reason message".





Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Tafka on October 10, 2006, 05:07:57 pm
If it can show ping, then it could show if the connection is still stabled between players.. I mean that it would show if the player might have crashed or something like this.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Hatten on October 13, 2006, 03:32:06 pm
is it possible to do that the host can change his "user"/skin-nick (dunno what to say)
without restarting server? i would love that  :-*


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 13, 2006, 04:05:37 pm
is it possible to do that the host can change his "user"/skin-nick (dunno what to say)
without restarting server? i would love that  :-*

this might cause confusion (especially when he could also change name on the fly...).


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Tafka on October 13, 2006, 10:52:02 pm
I already don't like the server name change and max players change.
But Dark Charlie.
Now i suggest you to make LX Professional bugfree and also try to improve FPS and Ping.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Gaston on October 13, 2006, 11:09:42 pm
I already don't like the server name change and max players change.
But Dark Charlie.
Now i suggest you to make LX Professional bugfree and also try to improve FPS and Ping.

You think he's not already doing that?

To be fair, I think the only logical step to take for DC is to make a new lx pro version which isn't compatible to 0.56 due to very many things are restricting him from making improvements to lx pro as it is since he is keeping it compitable with 0.56.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Purplehaze on October 14, 2006, 05:37:10 pm
yeah, but one of the reasons why noone plays LXE is because its not compatable with .56.
At this point, if LXP went seperate from .56, I would probably stay with .56.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Gaston on October 14, 2006, 06:14:22 pm
yeah, but one of the reasons why noone plays LXE is because its not compatable with .56.
At this point, if LXP went seperate from .56, I would probably stay with .56.

That's not the reason. The reason people don't play LXE is because it was a bit of a rushed relase that was just as buggy as 0.56 and din't really improve that many things. When the new LXE comes out and if it proves to be much better and stable than 0.56, people will switch versions pretty quick.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Raziel on October 14, 2006, 06:25:57 pm
Okej!


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Purplehaze on October 14, 2006, 10:20:19 pm
I said "one of the reasons"  :P
theres more than one reason, and the reason I said is the main one for me.

I hope fps is a little better in the next version of lxp so i dont have to switch back and forth between lxp and .56  :)


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Hatten on October 15, 2006, 07:41:29 pm
what does the mute do?
 ;D ??? :P


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Raziel on October 15, 2006, 07:47:56 pm
Handy tool for me, if I will meet you on any server. I will type "Mute Hatten" and it will make you quiet on my screen. No more idiotic blabling :)


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Ruki on October 15, 2006, 08:00:34 pm
Implent the "/mute all" function?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Tafka on October 15, 2006, 08:11:59 pm
Or /mutewholelx


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Hazardous Frog on October 15, 2006, 10:30:45 pm
"/mute me", so i don't have to listen to my own idiotic ramblings

kind of like the "suicide" command, which i have used to great effect


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: AnubisBlessing on October 15, 2006, 11:01:49 pm
Is it possible to make a command to kill out a player completely?
Like the suicide command?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Asrack on October 15, 2006, 11:58:59 pm
Is it possible to make a command to kill out a player completely?
Like the suicide command?

How about:
/Destroy "player"
Will drop someone to no lives.
/Kill "player"
Will remove 1 life from a player.
/Drop (#1, #2, #3)
Drops mulitpul amounts of people. Using a coma as a sperate command.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Kurt on October 16, 2006, 05:47:10 am
Is it possible to make a command to kill out a player completely?
Like the suicide command?
Sure it is, hackers are using it right now. You don't even have to be the host of the server to do it.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Ahmed on October 16, 2006, 11:36:19 am
Is it possible to make a command to kill out a player completely?
Like the suicide command?


Then people will use it for no reason, just to win :S.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: AnubisBlessing on October 16, 2006, 01:07:18 pm
Is it possible to make a command to kill out a player completely?
Like the suicide command?


Then people will use it for no reason, just to win :S.

I was thinking to make it so you can only use it on yourself. It would of course be completely stupid if the host could just kill anyone out.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Ruki on October 16, 2006, 01:18:53 pm
You already have /suicide command with this function (to kill yourself) ?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Gaston on October 16, 2006, 01:28:54 pm
I think he means just type a command once, and *whoop* you're out of the game, instead of typing /suicide as many times as you have lives.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 16, 2006, 02:57:25 pm
I think he means just type a command once, and *whoop* you're out of the game, instead of typing /suicide as many times as you have lives.

a good name for such command could be /spectate (to enter spectator mode). i think this setting should NOT be reset upon starting a new game. When a person is still in spectator mode, and all the other players have chosen weapens and pressed 'ready', the game can start even when the spectator haven't pressed 'ready'. When they DO press ready in time, they should automatically enter playing mode again. maybe a little timer (about 5 sec should do) could be build in to give spectators enough time to re-enter. The moment the game registers a key-press from a spectator, a package should be send to the server to tell that they want to re-enter playing mode.

so why go through all the trouble to implement it like this ^^ ? It means you don't have to wait for players that entered spectator mode upon starting a new game, and you also don't have to kick em to proceed with the game. They will also be there to join for the next game without the hassle of having to re-enter the server.

A host should also be able to tag players as spectator in the lobby(i presume this only needs to be an option in team deathmatch). the usually coloured square could be an icon instead that shows that someone is in spectator mode.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Tafka on October 16, 2006, 06:58:53 pm
It wouldn't be compatible with 0.56 then. But as someone suggested  -  uncompatible.. that would be normal idea, but it should be thinked over before adding it. Like how long time or smth. And it shouldn't be possible to add the "Play Mode" During game. else you have most lives and you go play.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: RuNyoufool on October 16, 2006, 08:14:41 pm
It wouldn't be compatible with 0.56 then. But as someone suggested  -  uncompatible.. that would be normal idea, but it should be thinked over before adding it. Like how long time or smth. And it shouldn't be possible to add the "Play Mode" During game. else you have most lives and you go play.

yes, i wasn't really thinking about compatibility  ;D

i guess its more of a longterm feature request then..


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Hatten on October 17, 2006, 07:27:20 pm


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Raziel on October 17, 2006, 08:49:36 pm


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: [leke]GrassNinja on October 18, 2006, 08:52:47 am


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Zapp on October 21, 2006, 02:07:01 pm
I've tried this out, and i'm now a permanent user :)

I've found a couple of bugs i thought to report incase they haven't been mentioned. Sometimes players are muted in the lobby even though I haven't muted them, so i'll have to unmute them when they enter the server. And there's also an occasional keyboard bug when adding the "server message" which makes odd keystroke repetitions.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Ypsilon on October 21, 2006, 02:19:36 pm
fourtg edition is cool --> unstuck command it rox :D


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: DarkCharlie on October 21, 2006, 08:55:51 pm
Sorry, i was a bit busy for last two weeks.

The 5th version is almost ready to be released, i just need to test few things.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fourth edition.
Post by: Tafka on October 21, 2006, 09:09:57 pm
Good Good.
Btw, sometimes if i use LX pro, i crash everytime i try to open it.
And i just have to delete the folder and download normal 0.56 pack and LX pro back again... that sucks :(


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Hatten on November 04, 2006, 08:00:47 pm
my lxpro (5th) is very often "dont answer" (svarar inte) and i must close it :-\
its stupid :-\


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Gaston on November 04, 2006, 08:02:23 pm
To prevent that in the future, I suggest you use that handy tool that came with  LX Pro which enables you to send error reports to DarkCharlie so he at least know what the problem is.


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Hatten on November 04, 2006, 08:03:51 pm
but...
that report thingy is only coming when it "crashes" (close down by itself) but that thingamojing doesnt show hhes face >:(


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Benn0 on November 04, 2006, 08:05:56 pm
well you can send him an e-mail....


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Hatten on November 04, 2006, 08:06:17 pm
with what?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Gaston on November 04, 2006, 08:09:28 pm
All the details of what you were doing.

what was the last things you did on lx pro before it stopped responding?
Were you running it in windowed mode?
Was it ingame, or was it in the game menu?
what other programs were you running?
what are your pc specs?
How long did it take from you started the program, till it stopped responding?
I bet there is a bunch of other info you could include as well...


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Hatten on November 06, 2006, 08:42:16 pm
ty
but what is pc specs?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Tafka on November 06, 2006, 09:02:38 pm
How much room you have in your hard drive (GB)
Random Acess memory (RAM) (MB)
Processor (Ghz)


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: Kurt on November 06, 2006, 09:15:35 pm
ty
but what is pc specs?
www.google.com, k?


Title: Re: LX Professional - Fifth edition.
Post by: RuNyoufool on November 07, 2006, 03:12:13 pm
new topic in rip forum: http://lxalliance.net/smf/index.php/topic,3071.0.html

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